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WEEKEND OMNICHATTER for May 20-22, 2022

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Hombre Brotani Posted: May 20, 2022 at 07:16 AM | 120 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: May 20, 2022 at 12:25 PM (#6077641)
HOW WILL THE YANKEES LOSE TODAY????
   2. salvomania Posted: May 20, 2022 at 03:53 PM (#6077671)
With the Cardinals calling up strikeout-prone AAA masher Nolan Gorman to play 2B and Tommy Edman moving over to shortstop, I'm curious to see the overall effect on the team's defense.

Having watched most of the Cardinals' games this year, it's not an understatement to say that Edman's 2B defense has played a big part in the Cardinals being over .500 (20-18) to this point; he leads all MLB in defensive WAR, and all MLB 2B in Defensive Runs Saved with 7. He has incredible range, and is extremely aggressive on throwing to 2B to get the lead runner on balls hit deep to the right side. He plays practically a shallow right field sometimes and I'm amazed at balls he gets to there on which he is still able to get the runner at 1B.

The word on Gorman---who only moved to 2B from 3B last year, after the Cardinals signed Arenado---is that someday he may be an average second baseman.

I'm excited to see his debut tonight against the Pirates, and curious to see how well Edman handles short; he's played there before, but has only 15 starts at short in MLB, almost all of them in 2020.
   3. Snowboy Posted: May 20, 2022 at 04:11 PM (#6077675)
From the covid files: as soon as last night's SEA@TOR game (series) ended, the Mariners activated RP Drew Steckenrider from the restricted list, and sent down Roenis Elias.

In advance of tonight's CIN@TOR game (series), the Reds have placed on the restricted list (for not being vaccinated, and thus unable to enter Canada) OF Albert Almora Jr. and IF Brandon Drury. They've also placed RP Joel Kuhnel and SP Tyler Mahle on the restricted list (presumably also for not being vaccinated, but also possibly for having a silent "H" - a common practice in Quebec Nation but not supported by the rest of Canada.)

And so OF Aristides Aquino, IF Taylor Motter, and RP Graham Ashcraft and have been called up and get to spend at least a weekend in the majors (and in one of North America's finest, cleanest, funnest, safest cities.) (And most expensivest, my friend would say? Then again a co-worker flew down to SF last week and went to a Giants game at PacBell (Oracle?) He said it was $15 for a beer, $30 for a hiball.)

And <drum roll> the fourth offsetting transaction for the Reds was activating 1B Joey Votto from the IL. The favourite local son, from Etobicoke (a suburb of Toronto), second round pick of the Reds in 2002 out of high school, 2010 MVP of the National League, six time All-Star, currently sporting sixteen year career line of 300/415/516, who was nine years old when the Blue Jays won their first World Series in 1992, will get to play "at home" for the first time since 2017.
   4. salvomania Posted: May 20, 2022 at 04:27 PM (#6077680)
DBacks' 3B Josh Rojas entered today with zero home runs in 49 PA, and has now homered three times at Wrigley, with one more AB still on tap.
   5. salvomania Posted: May 20, 2022 at 04:47 PM (#6077682)
10 homers so far today at Wrigley, I guess the wind is blowing out.
   6. salvomania Posted: May 20, 2022 at 05:16 PM (#6077687)
For those of you who don't pay for Apple+ TV, here's how to watch tonight's Pirates-Cardinals game, if you're interested:
https://www.mlb.com/amp/news/how-to-watch-cardinals-pirates-on-apple-tv-may-20-2022.html

Note: it does require an Apple ID, but you don't need to be an Apple+ TV subscriber to get the game.
   7. salvomania Posted: May 20, 2022 at 05:18 PM (#6077689)
DBacks' 3B Josh Rojas entered today with zero home runs in 49 PA, and has now homered three times at Wrigley, with one more AB still on tap.

So Rojas whiffed leading off the 9th, but the next batter, Christian Walker, did hit his 10th home run of the year, which ties him with two other first basemen, Pete Alonso and CJ Cron, for the NL lead.

(only six commas in that sentence)
   8. salvomania Posted: May 20, 2022 at 06:33 PM (#6077704)
What the heck are the Pirates and Cardinals wearing? Camo hats and striped camo socks? Are all the teams doing this over Memorial Day weekend? I can't imagine the Yankees sullying their brand like that.
   9. salvomania Posted: May 20, 2022 at 06:52 PM (#6077708)
Gorman's first chance: a nice backhanded flip to Edman at second to start a 4-6-3 DP.
   10. salvomania Posted: May 20, 2022 at 07:11 PM (#6077710)
Nice first AB by Gorman: gets in an 0-2 hole, then takes a ball in the dirt. then lines a single through the shift on the right side.
   11. Snowboy Posted: May 20, 2022 at 07:12 PM (#6077711)
Thanks, salvo.
Bet365 (the world's favorite casino), Ghost River Casino, Betway, BetMGM, DraftKings Sportsbook (only available in Canada to Ontarians), BetSure, SureBet, Gila River Casino, in addition to a number of casinos in the Niagara Falls area, all had the O/U at 4 commas for your next post. And that's just from the NHL broadcasts.
I bet the over, and made out like a bandit, not that I was trying, or that we are in cahoots, or bet the maximum, but somehow I just had a hunch that, despite the windy weather in Chicago, I decided to bet that salvo is feeling good, and whilst keeping it on point, and informative, he will go over 4.
   12. salvomania Posted: May 20, 2022 at 07:24 PM (#6077714)
Not bad, Snowboy.
   13. Snowboy Posted: May 20, 2022 at 07:37 PM (#6077715)
We can make fun of ourselves, can't we?
   14. salvomania Posted: May 20, 2022 at 08:09 PM (#6077720)
Very underwhelmed by the Apple+ TV announcers.

One of them uses the word "velo" constantly, and for some reason I find it really annoying.

The other one is just one inanity after another, and just identified Brendan Donovan through an entire at-bat as "Carlson," even on the call on the groundout.
   15. The Duke Posted: May 20, 2022 at 09:07 PM (#6077727)
Melanie is ok. Whoever the color guy is, he's awful.
   16. salvomania Posted: May 20, 2022 at 09:44 PM (#6077739)
Melanie is ok.

She just says a lot of things really awkwardly. Just now, speaking of Cardinals' reliever Genesis Cabrera, she mentions that he pitched a scoreless inning on Thursday, and follows up with this:

"That was a 10-inning performance that ultimately came up on the Mets' side."

"Performance"? "Mets' side"?

Almost every other sentence she's saying something that you can understand, but it just sounds off.

Earlier, when a hitter grounded a single through the left side, he "beat the defense." Not "wrong," just a bit off.
   17. salvomania Posted: May 20, 2022 at 09:46 PM (#6077740)
She was saying that without Roberto Clemente paving the way, Yadier Molina could have never had the career he's had in MLB.

It just makes you turn your head and say "huh?"
   18. The Yankee Clapper Posted: May 20, 2022 at 10:18 PM (#6077754)
After 2BB, around-the-horn triple play for the Nationals, but they still trail the Brewers 2-0, heading into top of 8th.
   19. The Duke Posted: May 20, 2022 at 10:40 PM (#6077762)
So we might have a real horse race to 200 wins developing. Wainwright just tied Kershaw at 189 tonight. Scherzer just went on IL for 6-8 weeks and he's at 195. We could have all three headed for late Year chance to hit 200 wins. That's pretty cool.

   20. The Duke Posted: May 20, 2022 at 10:47 PM (#6077763)
It's interesting that verlander, grienke, scherzer and Kershaw all have so much higher career WAR totals than Wainwright
   21. salvomania Posted: May 20, 2022 at 11:13 PM (#6077769)
It's interesting that verlander, grienke, scherzer and Kershaw all have so much higher career WAR totals than Wainwright

Wanwright has the fewest innings pitched among the four--behind by a little to kershaw, then Scherzer, and almost 600 innings behind Verlander and over 700 innings behind Greinke (3,154 ip).
   22. Walt Davis Posted: May 21, 2022 at 01:45 AM (#6077791)
He also has an ERA+ 36 points below Kershaw. Who knows if the gap is exactly right but there's really no question which of those two has had the better career -- that one's not particularly close. With the other 3, you do get more into the weeds around defense, park factors and IP.
   23. The Duke Posted: May 21, 2022 at 11:03 AM (#6077802)
Kershaw of course could rack up another 50-100 wins if he gets healthy and keeps pitching like he has. Wainwright will only get somewhere from 5-20 more wins. Scherzer, idk, the mind is willing.....
   24. The Duke Posted: May 21, 2022 at 11:31 AM (#6077803)
Rutschman is given Mussinas number 35. That seems wrong. Why isn't that number Retired ? Is 150 wins and a hall of fame induction not good enough to get a retired jersey? Or was 35 not his primary jersey in baltimore ?
   25. JJ1986 Posted: May 21, 2022 at 11:37 AM (#6077804)
Looks like the Orioles have had twelve #35s since Mussina left, seven of those since he retired and two (including Adam Plutko last year) since he was inducted into the Hall.
   26. The Yankee Clapper Posted: May 21, 2022 at 01:59 PM (#6077814)
GRAND SLAM for 10-year man D.J. LeMahieu to RF gives the Yankees a 5-0 lead over the ChiSox after two innings.
   27. The Yankee Clapper Posted: May 21, 2022 at 03:04 PM (#6077817)
Bit of a 5th-inning fracas, but less than a donnybrook, at home plate as ChiSox seem to be still steamed over Josh Donaldson’s disallowed tag last week when his momentum pushed Tim Anderson off 3rd. Anderson seems highly-agitated, Donaldson not so much. Lots of milling around, as well as obligatory bullpen dash to field. Warnings issued.

I would not suggest escalating things against a team that has so many heavyweights.
   28. Captain Joe Bivens, Pointless and Wonderful Posted: May 21, 2022 at 03:11 PM (#6077818)
Given that it wasn't Donaldson's 1st AB of the game, Grandal was probably provoked by something Donaldson said as he came to the plate (or at some other time during today's game).
   29. Captain Joe Bivens, Pointless and Wonderful Posted: May 21, 2022 at 03:53 PM (#6077823)
Or, the White Sox are still mad at him over what he said last year as he crossed the plate after hitting a HR off of Giolito (per Kay).

edit...and the Anderson thing, which I didn't see, and I can't trust your description of it.
   30. Captain Joe Bivens, Pointless and Wonderful Posted: May 21, 2022 at 03:58 PM (#6077824)
   31. Tom Nawrocki Posted: May 21, 2022 at 04:09 PM (#6077825)
Here's the Anderson/Donaldson play that Clapper was referencing. I guess Donaldson's "momentum" forced him to shove Anderson off the bag with his left arm.
   32. Captain Joe Bivens, Pointless and Wonderful Posted: May 21, 2022 at 04:19 PM (#6077826)
Donaldson tried to block Anderson from getting back to the bag. LOL momentum. Ever the dancing monkey, Clapper.

Donaldson was on the HP side of third (as he needed to be). It had nothing to do with momentum.
   33. Captain Joe Bivens, Pointless and Wonderful Posted: May 21, 2022 at 04:23 PM (#6077827)
And Whitlock is turning into a pumpkin against a bad Seattle team.
   34. The Yankee Clapper Posted: May 21, 2022 at 04:55 PM (#6077833)
and the Anderson thing, which I didn't see, and I can't trust your description of it.
Abreu (and another White Sox player) had to drag a rather demonstrative Anderson back to the dugout. I suspect you can probably find some mention of that in the coverage, if you care to do so rather than revel in your ignorance.
   35. Captain Joe Bivens, Pointless and Wonderful Posted: May 21, 2022 at 05:13 PM (#6077837)
I saw today's game, and I saw the Donaldson play. You were talking about the Donaldson play, which was last week. They dragged Anderson back to the dugout today, so what's your point, liar?*


*You're not lying about this, you're just misrepresenting. You're just a liar, in general.
   36. Captain Joe Bivens, Pointless and Wonderful Posted: May 21, 2022 at 05:21 PM (#6077838)
Per Michael Kay, the problem between Donaldson and the White Sox dates back to last year, when Donaldson hit a HR off of Giolito and then had something to say to him about "sticky stuff" or whatever his exact words were, as he crossed the plate. The White Sox were annoyed by that. Then, the play last week. Then, whatever happened between the beginning of today's game and the 5th inning, when Grandal gave him a lecture before the AB. What precipitated that lecture isn't known right now, by us.

There's the history.
   37. Captain Joe Bivens, Pointless and Wonderful Posted: May 21, 2022 at 05:31 PM (#6077839)
Anderson says Donaldson made a racist comment to him, twice. Today.
   38. Hombre Brotani Posted: May 21, 2022 at 05:51 PM (#6077840)
Live reaction to the Donaldson-Anderson play:
10. Hombre Brotani Posted: May 13, 2022 at 08:41 PM (#6076620)
Josh Donaldson just tried to tag out Tim Anderson off 3rd base by using his knee against Anderson's head to get him off the bag.

   39. Captain Joe Bivens, Pointless and Wonderful Posted: May 21, 2022 at 05:59 PM (#6077841)
Hey whoa Bobby Dalbec is in the middle of a Red Sox comeback! I mean, Seattle isn't good this year yet, so it's not earth shattering that the Sox would tie it up after being down 5-0.
   40. Walt Davis Posted: May 21, 2022 at 06:15 PM (#6077842)
Given how angry Anderson was and that it took two big guys (Abreu and Sheets) to barely hold him back, I suspected something had been said.

Now, onto the Cubs. Christopher Morel has looked pretty good so far (it's just a handful of PAs and plays in the field). But the way, the Cubs' broadcasters have been talking about him, you'd think he was 20 or something. He'll turn 23 in a month (so this is his age 23 season) ... that's great, not old or anything but he was only in AA in his age 23 season while at times they make it sound like he's had some meteoric rise like Franco. The other day JD said something about him adding strength the last couple of years and "he's going to be a very large man" (or similar) again as if he was a 20-yo Sosa.

Anyway, the defense at third has looked quite nice and he's splitting his time with 2B and CF too. I suspect there are some holes in the swing and he'll be under a 100 OPS+ by season's end but he has shown good patience and had that 11-pitch PA the other day so I don't think we're looking at a 200/240/320 guy.
   41. Captain Joe Bivens, Pointless and Wonderful Posted: May 21, 2022 at 06:16 PM (#6077843)
It's very warm in Boston, and that's when balls usually sail out of the park, but the wind is blowing in from RF, which is an unusual wind direction when it's hot out.
   42. Walt Davis Posted: May 21, 2022 at 06:24 PM (#6077844)
The other nice recent debut is reliever Brandon Hughes, a lefty. Got off to an excellent start with 7 Ks, 1 BB and no hits in his first 3.1 innings. I'm not sure if the Cubs see him as AAA shuttle material or something more but Ross is treating him like the first. He threw 28 pitches on Tues, 22 on Thurs and now another 23 today to get 2 outs (3 hits, 1 run). 73 pitches in 5 days is a heavy load these days. Compare that to Givens who's thrown 81 pitches over 2 weeks. If the kid's only up for a week or two then that's the job but he's looked better than that so far.
   43. The Yankee Clapper Posted: May 21, 2022 at 06:46 PM (#6077845)
Bivens, if you can’t do better than name-calling & insults, perhaps you should just stick to pants-pissing. You’re good at that.
   44. Captain Joe Bivens, Pointless and Wonderful Posted: May 21, 2022 at 06:54 PM (#6077846)
I can do better, DM. I can do worse, as you do.



And the Red Sox go ahead in the 8th!

   45. The Duke Posted: May 21, 2022 at 08:12 PM (#6077848)
Cardinals called up two prospects who have been playing together since grade school on the same team. Both ended up on Cardinals MILB teams and now both have been called up and debuted in the same series. Has anything like that happened before? It must be exceedingly rare to even play in the majors with anyone you grew up with much on the same team at the same time.
   46. Tom Nawrocki Posted: May 21, 2022 at 08:39 PM (#6077850)
This guy and this guy grew up together and were teammates on the Pirates for a couple of years in the mid-1950s.
   47. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: May 21, 2022 at 09:15 PM (#6077853)
Anderson says Donaldson made a racist comment to him, twice. Today.

Oh, please. Anderson's complaint was that Donaldson called him "Jackie". The problem is that Donaldson's reference didn't come out of thin air, since here's what Anderson himself said about himself.

You can slam Donaldson for that play at third last week, but that "racist" crap is a total stretch.

P. S. Anderson is one of my favorite players, and this non-incident from today isn't likely to carry over unless some White Sox pitcher tries to send a "message" at some point tomorrow. Because tomorrow's the last time these two teams will meet in the regular season.
   48. I don't want to talk about Rocco Posted: May 21, 2022 at 09:46 PM (#6077857)
Luis Urias with a dinger tonight, and a guy listed at 5'9" who continues to show legit power is always fun to see.
   49. The Duke Posted: May 21, 2022 at 10:54 PM (#6077865)
Cards pitcher Liberatore gives up first MLB homer and it's an inside the park job. Bet that hasn't happened too much
   50. Tom Nawrocki Posted: May 21, 2022 at 10:55 PM (#6077866)
The Rockies just called up a career minor league named Brian Serven to be their backup catcher. He got his first two major league hits tonight - a pair of two-run homers.
   51. sunday silence (again) Posted: May 22, 2022 at 01:35 AM (#6077884)
Nolan GOrman = non-moral nag
   52. The Duke Posted: May 22, 2022 at 10:12 AM (#6077896)
Breakfast baseball for the Cardinals and Pirates today !!!
   53. Captain Joe Bivens, Pointless and Wonderful Posted: May 22, 2022 at 01:14 PM (#6077924)
You can slam Donaldson for that play at third last week, but that "racist" crap is a total stretch.

P. S. Anderson is one of my favorite players, and this non-incident from today isn't likely to carry over unless some White Sox pitcher tries to send a "message" at some point tomorrow. Because tomorrow's the last time these two teams will meet in the regular season.


Tell that to Anderson (and Grandal, because what else would he have been in Donaldson's face for?).

If a WS pitcher hits Donaldson, it won't entirely be the pitcher's decision. The team may want it to happen. That's baseball. I know some of youse don't like to hear that, but, it's a part of the game. It's unsavory, but it's part of the game.
   54. Captain Joe Bivens, Pointless and Wonderful Posted: May 22, 2022 at 01:17 PM (#6077926)
Big game for Nathan Eovaldi today, after getting slapped around in his last start. They can sweep the struggling Mariners, and Eovaldi can feel better about himself going forward. It's gonna be hot out there today, so I'd like to see Eovaldi go 5 or 6 innings, giving up 2 runs.


The big tests for the Red Sox will be the ten game west coast trip coming up, and the 17 game stretch sandwiched around the AS break where they play Tampa, NYY, and Toronto. Those 27 will tell the tale of the Red Sox season. If they win 16-20 of them, they're in it. If they split, they'll hover around .500 all year. If they lose 16-20, they'll be trading Bogaerts and hopefully others before 8/1.
   55. Howie Menckel Posted: May 22, 2022 at 01:29 PM (#6077933)
after 4 innings, Cardinals lead 11-0 and all nine batters have a hit. that's hard to do
   56. Captain Joe Bivens, Pointless and Wonderful Posted: May 22, 2022 at 01:38 PM (#6077935)
Eovaldi has a chance to get out the first in under 10 pitches.
   57. Captain Joe Bivens, Pointless and Wonderful Posted: May 22, 2022 at 01:39 PM (#6077936)
8 pitches, nothing hit very hard.
   58. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: May 22, 2022 at 01:44 PM (#6077938)
Tell that to Anderson (and Grandal, because what else would he have been in Donaldson's face for?).

If a WS pitcher hits Donaldson, it won't entirely be the pitcher's decision. The team may want it to happen. That's baseball. I know some of youse don't like to hear that, but, it's a part of the game. It's unsavory, but it's part of the game.


Since when does trash-talking warrant a bean-ball? Donaldson seems to be a tedious jerk, but that's hardly uncommon in pro sports.
   59. Captain Joe Bivens, Pointless and Wonderful Posted: May 22, 2022 at 01:48 PM (#6077939)
Since when does trash-talking warrant a bean-ball?


There are degrees of trash talking. Larry Bird was a great trash talker, but not to the point where someone wanted to punch him for it. Donaldson's brand seems different, for reasons mentioned above.

edit..and I don't think you're wrong about how common it is. I think guys get hit for being jerks more than we hear about, but they put their heads down and take their base without complaint because they know they earned it.

2nd edit...when the trash talking leads to benches emptying, that's when guys get hit. Not all trash talking leads to benches clearing.
   60. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: May 22, 2022 at 02:00 PM (#6077944)
You can slam Donaldson for that play at third last week, but that "racist" crap is a total stretch.

P. S. Anderson is one of my favorite players, and this non-incident from today isn't likely to carry over unless some White Sox pitcher tries to send a "message" at some point tomorrow. Because tomorrow's the last time these two teams will meet in the regular season.


Tell that to Anderson (and Grandal, because what else would he have been in Donaldson's face for?).


Right, nobody ever overreacts to anything. But Grandal's sticking up for a teammate is totally understandable.

And so was Anderson's reaction understandable in the heat of battle, for that matter. Doesn't mean it wasn't also an overreaction.
   61. Captain Joe Bivens, Pointless and Wonderful Posted: May 22, 2022 at 02:17 PM (#6077949)
Doesn't mean it wasn't also an overreaction.


In the pool hall, wouldn't you maybe get a beating for what Donaldson said? Or at least get threatened?
   62. Captain Joe Bivens, Pointless and Wonderful Posted: May 22, 2022 at 02:18 PM (#6077950)
Kiké has a lot of doubles for a guy having a bad year.
   63. The Duke Posted: May 22, 2022 at 02:37 PM (#6077954)
The Cardinals minor leaguer Lars Nootbar has a solo homer, a 2 run homer and a grand slam through 4 innings today at Memphis. Has anyone ever hit a home run cycle in MLB?
   64. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: May 22, 2022 at 02:40 PM (#6077955)
In the pool hall, wouldn't you maybe get a beating for what Donaldson said? Or at least get threatened?

In most contexts, I think the guy who compared himself to an all time great would be hearing about it from a lot of people for years. If I told my golf buddies "My swing is a little bit like Jack Nicklaus", I'd expect to hear "nice shot Jack", ever time I sliced one.

Real life example. One of my friend said one day, after a birdie, "I think I average about a birdie per round". He heard about that every time he had a birdie free round for about a decade.
   65. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: May 22, 2022 at 02:41 PM (#6077956)
Doesn't mean it wasn't also an overreaction.

In the pool hall, wouldn't you maybe get a beating for what Donaldson said? Or at least get threatened?


Only in pool halls I'd never been in before. But more to the point, in the hundreds of pool rooms I've been in over the years, I've never met a pool player who'd be comparing himself to Jackie Robinson, because if he did he'd be laughed out of the room by players of every racial background.
   66. Captain Joe Bivens, Pointless and Wonderful Posted: May 22, 2022 at 02:51 PM (#6077958)
Andy, I totally get what you're saying and I don't disagree with much of it. I said that the White Sox said Donaldson made a racist comment. I can see why they'd think so, even though there's more than a little plausibility that Donaldson was just being a douche, not making a racist comment. Either way, Donaldson shouldn't be surprised that the reaction he got was so strong. That's all.

However, Anderson's comparing himself to Robinson was silly, but that doesn't mean that comments from guys like Donaldson aren't motivated by racism. I don't know Donaldson's history there. Do you? I mean, can't you see how racists might use any excuse to elevate themselves by pointing out that a black man made a dumb comment that other than it's dumbness was harmless?
   67. Captain Joe Bivens, Pointless and Wonderful Posted: May 22, 2022 at 02:57 PM (#6077960)
He heard about that every time he had a birdie free round for about a decade.


What did he do the next round? See? AVERAGES!


I average about .75 birdies a round. That's a good idea....keeping track of birdies. I shall do that for the rest of the golf season and see how many end up with/round.

I've posted 16 rounds this year and probably have 4 or 5 birdies. But I don't play well until June, usually. I broke 85 for the first time this year on Friday. I'm usually below 85 from June thru October. So yeah, I'll track them. I think .75 is close, maybe a bit low.
   68. salvomania Posted: May 22, 2022 at 03:05 PM (#6077961)
A week after Albert Pujols, Yadier Molina is now pitching the 9th inning for the Cardinals.

First batter: home run.

Second batter: double.

Third batter, the position-player-pitcher Josh Van Meter (who the Cardinals homered twice against in the top half of the inning): single.

Fourth batter: line out.

Fifth batter: out.

Sixth batter: another homer.

Seventh batter: last out of the game.

Cardinals' position player outpitches the Pirates' position player, 5-4, with each allowing 2 homers.
   69. Captain Joe Bivens, Pointless and Wonderful Posted: May 22, 2022 at 03:08 PM (#6077962)
Eovaldi just gave up a 2R HR in the top of the 6th...2-2...so it's a good start for Eovaldi. 81 pitches on a hot day, if he lets another batter reach, he may get yanked.
   70. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: May 22, 2022 at 03:08 PM (#6077963)
What did he do the next round? See? AVERAGES!

He probably averaged a birdie every 10 rounds.
   71. Captain Joe Bivens, Pointless and Wonderful Posted: May 22, 2022 at 03:11 PM (#6077964)
He probably averaged a birdie every 10 rounds.


That's funny. Not smart of him. I'm at a course now where guys are more polite...they talk behind your back if you said something like that. Other courses I've belonged to...you'd get roasted for it.
   72. Captain Joe Bivens, Pointless and Wonderful Posted: May 22, 2022 at 03:15 PM (#6077965)
snapper, do you get YES? Report what happens during Donaldson's 1st AB? Thank you.
   73. Ithaca2323 Posted: May 22, 2022 at 03:17 PM (#6077966)
Cardinals' position player outpitches the Pirates' position player, 5-4, with each allowing 2 homers.


I'd be very interested to see what the final, MLB-wide totals are on position players pitching.
   74. Captain Joe Bivens, Pointless and Wonderful Posted: May 22, 2022 at 03:17 PM (#6077967)
I was just gonna say that the Red Sox will be ok once the M's starter gets pulled, but Story just hit a HR off of him.

I wonder if Eovaldi comes out for the 7th? Maybe. They haven't said (or I didn't hear) whether there are guys warming up.
   75. Captain Joe Bivens, Pointless and Wonderful Posted: May 22, 2022 at 03:19 PM (#6077968)
Arroyo will be called out on replay, I bet.
   76. Snowboy Posted: May 22, 2022 at 03:19 PM (#6077969)
The Reds called up/activated for the weekend series in Toronto (because others in the organization are not vaccinated against covid, see post#3 if want more info) are making the most of this series. Motter has played every day, Aquino is getting the start in CF today (he looks bigger than 6'4",) and doubled in the Reds two runs in the first inning, and Graham Ashcraft is making his MLB debut as today's starting pitcher. And of course Joey Votto might be slipping, and he's rusty after being out for a couple of weeks with a nasty bout with covid, but he's glad to be out there again, and bonus whip cream he grew up 3 miles from the CN Tower where the Jays now play.
   77. Captain Joe Bivens, Pointless and Wonderful Posted: May 22, 2022 at 03:20 PM (#6077970)
Out. By like 3 inches.
   78. Captain Joe Bivens, Pointless and Wonderful Posted: May 22, 2022 at 03:27 PM (#6077975)
Eovaldi is at 95 pitches through 6 and 1/3.
   79. Captain Joe Bivens, Pointless and Wonderful Posted: May 22, 2022 at 03:28 PM (#6077976)
Eovaldi looks like he isn't even sweating. How can this be? It's at least 90 in Boston today.
   80. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: May 22, 2022 at 03:29 PM (#6077977)
snapper, do you get YES? Report what happens during Donaldson's 1st AB? Thank you.

Doesn't seem to be on YES.
   81. Captain Joe Bivens, Pointless and Wonderful Posted: May 22, 2022 at 03:30 PM (#6077978)
6 2/3, 2 ER. Just what the doctor ordered.
   82. Captain Joe Bivens, Pointless and Wonderful Posted: May 22, 2022 at 03:33 PM (#6077980)
Doesn't seem to be on YES.


I don't get that. A week or 2 ago a couple of Red Sox games weren't on NESN...you had to jump through hoops (AppleTV+, I think) to see it, which makes no sense when the team is playing .400 ball. I know the Yankees are off to a good start, but they can't make you pay for games, can they? Is that wise?
   83. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: May 22, 2022 at 03:38 PM (#6077983)
I don't get that. A week or 2 ago a couple of Red Sox games weren't on NESN...you had to jump through hoops (AppleTV+, I think) to see it, which makes no sense when the team is playing .400 ball. I know the Yankees are off to a good start, but they can't make you pay for games, can they? Is that wise?

From what I can see, the night game is on ESPN, and the day game is on Amazon prime, which I have, but not on the TV in the computer room.
   84. The Yankee Clapper Posted: May 22, 2022 at 03:40 PM (#6077985)
The Yankee game is on Extra Innings & MLB.TV for those of us out of the market. It’s the YES crew on Extra Innings, but it has Amazon Prime Video logo on the screen.

Scoreless, and no fireworks, heading into bottom of 3rd.
   85. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: May 22, 2022 at 03:44 PM (#6077987)
The Yankee game is on Extra Innings & MLB.TV for those of us out of the market.

Those are subscription services, no? I'm already paying for YES, shouldn't need those.
   86. Captain Joe Bivens, Pointless and Wonderful Posted: May 22, 2022 at 03:50 PM (#6077989)
Scoreless, and no fireworks, heading into bottom of 3rd.


Thanks.
I'm already paying for YES, shouldn't need those.


As part of your basic package, or extra? NESN is basic, at least.
   87. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: May 22, 2022 at 03:52 PM (#6077990)
As part of your basic package, or extra? NESN is basic, at least.

It's part of the package, but it's not the basic package.
   88. Captain Joe Bivens, Pointless and Wonderful Posted: May 22, 2022 at 03:53 PM (#6077991)
Whoa, big DP with the tying run on third. Still 3-2. Robles gave up a hit but got the ground ball next batter.
   89. Captain Joe Bivens, Pointless and Wonderful Posted: May 22, 2022 at 03:54 PM (#6077992)
It's part of the package, but it's not the basic package.


I guess you're helping them re-sign Judge.
   90. Captain Joe Bivens, Pointless and Wonderful Posted: May 22, 2022 at 04:14 PM (#6077999)
Robles blows the save.

   91. Snowboy Posted: May 22, 2022 at 04:32 PM (#6078002)
Votto solo homers off the facing of the second deck to give the Reds 3-2 lead in the 8th.
Drops the bat, and immediately signals into his first base visitor dugout. It was straight down the line, right at the CN Tower which looms over RF, but he knew he got all of it, and predicted it would stay fair. GOOOOOOOOOOOONE!
   92. The Duke Posted: May 22, 2022 at 04:41 PM (#6078003)
IDK, I look at the reds and think they should be close to a .500 team. If Votto and Farmer would simply be league average and they find another starter and add a bit of depth, they could be pretty ok.
   93. Snowboy Posted: May 22, 2022 at 04:43 PM (#6078005)
Alexis Diaz pitching for the Reds.
He is the brother of Mets Edwin Diaz.
Broadcast says they are #2 all-time for siblings with saves.
(Although I like trivia, and stats, I sometimes think Elias Bureau goes too far. Alexis has 1 save.
Reminds me of the true, but somewhat disingenuous trivia question in hockey: which two brothers hold NHL sibling record for scoring the most points?)

ED: Sorry, missed adding the hockey answer, don't mean to start an off-topic hockey trivia chat. It's Wayne Gretzky (~79,000,000) and Keith (4 pts)
   94. salvomania Posted: May 22, 2022 at 04:45 PM (#6078006)
Votto solo homers off the facing of the second deck to give the Reds 3-2 lead in the 8th.

That's his first of the year, after 36 last year.

After a horrific start before missing 15 games on the COVID list, Votto now has hits in each of the last three games, which is promising when compared to his 9-for-70 in his 21 games before the COVID.
   95. The Duke Posted: May 22, 2022 at 04:46 PM (#6078007)
I did a bit of comparing of players who might be a good career comp for Tommy Edman. I came up with a guy who's pretty close profile

They are both switch hitters
Both are about the same size and weight
They both star/starred for iconic teams
They both hit leadoff for their teams
They both played multiple positions with both starting out as second basemen in their first few years
Both are known as excellent base runners but Edman is a much better base stealer
Edman is a better defensive player and his comp is a 20% better offensive player
Tommy is averaging 5.4 bWAR per 162 and his comp averaged 3.6 bWAR/162 but over a longer time.
His comp had a few years in his prime of 5-8 WAR, something that Edman may do as well.
Both were rarely injured with Tommy averaging 672 PA/162 while his comp averaged an 723 PA/162 over a longer career
Tommy's career batting line is .272/.336/.417/.743 and he is a much better RH hitter
Comp career batting line is .303/.375/.409/.784 and he is a much better LH hitter
Tommy's comp sustained a single-digit walk and K rates for his career. Tommy is slightly higher for both.

Any ideas who my comp is ?
   96. salvomania Posted: May 22, 2022 at 04:48 PM (#6078008)
Pretty awful non-overturned call that should have given the Red Sox a 5-4 10th inning win.

To me, the runner seemed safe twice: his toe seemed to beat the tag, and the catcher clearly lost the ball on the tag.
   97. Captain Joe Bivens, Pointless and Wonderful Posted: May 22, 2022 at 04:49 PM (#6078009)
It goes to extras, the M's score. The Red Sox tie it up, then Vazquez gets thrown out at the plate as the winning run, and now Story is up w/ 2 outs, bases loaded.
   98. The Yankee Clapper Posted: May 22, 2022 at 04:50 PM (#6078010)
Cueto apparently cramping up on the mound for ChiSox, now drinking Gatorade & bottled water during mound conference. Don’t think I’ve seen anyone snacking on the field before, other than Mattingly grabbing a bit of popcorn on a foul ball into the stands. Cueto remains in the game.
   99. Captain Joe Bivens, Pointless and Wonderful Posted: May 22, 2022 at 04:52 PM (#6078011)
the catcher clearly lost the ball on the tag.


Unfortunately, you couldn't see the ball after the tag. It could have been in his glove.
   100. Captain Joe Bivens, Pointless and Wonderful Posted: May 22, 2022 at 04:53 PM (#6078012)
If the runner on third tagged up and bluffed down the line, the game would be over because the RF dropped the ball on the transfer, and the runner would have beaten the throw from 1/4 down the line.

Franchy hit a HR, so whatever.
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