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WEEKEND OMNICHATTER for May 20-22, 2022

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Hombre Brotani Posted: May 20, 2022 at 07:16 AM | 120 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   101. salvomania Posted: May 22, 2022 at 04:54 PM (#6078013)
Moot as Franchy hits the walk-off granny.
   102. Walt Davis Posted: May 22, 2022 at 04:56 PM (#6078016)
With the mention of Votto, maybe time for another old farts update:

Votto 134/276/171 ... the HR in #91 is his first of the year
Pujols 210/319/339 ... plus 2 HRs today so back over 100 OPS+
Miggy 276/321/390 ... that's a 113 OPS+
Cruz 194/276/288
Yadi 239/239/337
Yuli 229/266/397
Cano 186/213/237 ... actually worse in SD
Lowrie 253/347/348 ... 112 OPS+ (he's older than Gurriel I'm surprised to learn)

Verlander 6-1, 1.22 ERA ... let's just give him the CYA now
Greinke 0-2, 3.48 ... 112 ERA+
Scherzer 5-1, 2.54 ... we'd give him the CYA if not for injury
Hill 1-1, 3.90 ... 104 ERA+
Wainwright 5-3, 2.87 ... score the man some runs
Morton 3-3, 4.95

Ancient pitchers (at least the starters) doing great, about half the hitters doing OK. Seems like Lowrie should have done a tour of duty in the Theo years.
   103. Walt Davis Posted: May 22, 2022 at 05:02 PM (#6078018)
I'm guessing the Edman comp is Rose.

Snacks on the field ... Addison Russell once brought a plate of nachos out to a fan after spilling the guy's nachos when going into the stands to get a popup earlier.

EDIT: the utility of comping career rate stats of a guy with nearly 16,000 PAs to one with <1,500 is left as an exercise for the reader.
   104. Snowboy Posted: May 22, 2022 at 05:22 PM (#6078022)
That Addison Russell nacho presentation was awesome!

How about Prince Fielder with the Tigers, chasing after a foul pop over his head down the line that no one could get to? He ended up against a low wall with the fans, and helped himself to a nacho!
   105. The Yankee Clapper Posted: May 22, 2022 at 05:39 PM (#6078023)
Aaron Judge HR (#15) to 2nd deck in LF (431 feet) ties game 1-1 in 8th.
   106. The Duke Posted: May 22, 2022 at 05:58 PM (#6078025)
It is Rose - and of course Edman will have to do it for a long time but he looks like very similar in many ways. Edman has now moved to starting SS and could easily end up with a defensive career path similar to Rose where he plays multiple years at different positions. He's already been a semi-regular OF in his first year and may move to 3B over time if Arenado moves on.

Edman has the single most important trait that Rose had which is that he plays every day allowing him to pile up at bats.

It is interesting that Rose only had 80 WAR given his amazing number of plate appearances and hits. He was the ultimate compiler.

   107. The Duke Posted: May 22, 2022 at 06:01 PM (#6078026)
FYI. Wainwright has gotten a ton of run support in the games where he's been on. He's lost those three games on his own - it wasn't really a run support issue.
   108. The Duke Posted: May 22, 2022 at 06:02 PM (#6078027)
Cards position player pitching lines:

5/15 Pujols 1 IP, 3 H, 4 R, 4 ER, 1 BB, 0 SO, 2 HR

5/22 Molina 1 IP, 4 H, 4 R, 4 ER, 0 BB, 0 SO, 2 HR

They are best friends, of course so that makes sense
   109. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: May 22, 2022 at 06:06 PM (#6078029)
Hicks and Chapman have been so piss poor over the past few weeks that they're almost making me forget about Gallo. Almost.
   110. Captain Joe Bivens, Pointless and Wonderful Posted: May 22, 2022 at 06:38 PM (#6078031)
How far did Pollock's HR go?
   111. salvomania Posted: May 22, 2022 at 06:42 PM (#6078032)
Re: Edman comp, I thought Pete Rose, too, which I see Walt mentioned already.
   112. Walt Davis Posted: May 22, 2022 at 07:01 PM (#6078033)
But Edman and Rose aren't particularly similar. Rose was a very good hitter while Edman is an average hitter; Rose was a poor defender in the IF but a pretty good OF, Edman is apparently an excellent IF. Rose played everyday for 20 years; Edman has played everyday for 8 months.

Per 650 PA

TE 6 Rbat, 7 base + dp, 17 Rf + Rpos
PR 22 Rbat, 3 base + dp, -5 Rf + Rpos (ages 24-27)

So other than the 1.6 win difference on offense and the 2.2 win difference on defense, they are quite similar players.

Note, by WAR/650, Edman is better than Rose. The big difference of course is 2800 PA for Rose vs 1433 for Edman.

The question for Edman is whether he can handle SS full-time. It's no surprise somebody who can can also handle 2B and 3B ... and probably OF although it's uncommon for a decent SS to be asked to play there. If you want to stick with switch-hitters then unless you're gonna get hung up on height (4 inch difference), Tony Fernandez is a pretty good Edman WAR comp:

TF 4 Rbat, 3 base/dp, 16 def (per 650, ages 24-27 but also 2700 PA)

EDIT: My apologies, forgot the 2020 adjustment, Edman has been playing every day for 10 months.
   113. Snowboy Posted: May 22, 2022 at 08:22 PM (#6078041)
Just to cap the Reds@Jays series, the Reds are a better team than their early season record indicated. They're not contenders for the WS title, but they're also not contenders for the WOAT title. They're a motley hodge-podge, but some seasons are like that, in any sport and any level. Luis Castillo was voted last year having the best change-up in the NL by managers, execs, and scouts, and I wouldn't say he's lost that title, but you know how things go, without much run support his record might not look good by ASG, so I'm putting my money on C Tyler Stephenson being Reds ASG rep. Looked good behind the dish, numbers at plate look good, and days he didn't catch he was the DH.

As for the covid weekenders, Taylor Motter did not play well enough to keep Brandon Drury from being reinstated. But he was just recently playing in the Mexican League, so hopefully he enjoyed his return.

Aristides Aquino looked decent: he's good enough in the field that he played CF today, and they put Tyler Naquin in RF. He made a catch in the fifth with the bases loaded, and George Springer at third had a look but did not tag up and challenge his arm (which ultimately looked like the correct decision, as the throw came in on two bounces, but accurately.) At bat in the fifth he beat out a bouncer to SS. Then took off to steal against a LHP and basically got picked off, but beat the throw. Vladdy's not a GG 1B, and he's RH so it maybe takes an extra step to clear the runner, but he's decent. His throw forced Bichette to make a long tag, but it wasn't like there was an error on the play. Aquino just beat it.

Pitcher Graham Ashcraft made his MLB debut. He's a sixth round pick out of UAB, and I don't think he's heading to Cooperstown. He wasn't scheduled to pitch as of last night, but Cooper Overton came down with a sore back. He featured a decent FB and slider. When the Jays got two on in the fifth with 1 out, in a tie game, manager David Bell went to get him. That could happen to any pitcher who had thrown xx number of pitches (these days) and was facing third time through the rotation. But the thing I'll remember was the honest smile on Ashcraft's face. Like any pitcher, he goes from maximum intensity, maximum concentration, thinking about the next hitter, scratching the rubber, rubbing the ball, to looking up and seeing his catcher halfway to him, and his manager also approaching, stepping over the first base line, to a state of flush, and the adrenaline is gone. (Hello salvo, comma king? haha) As Bell walked the last few strides, a smile came over Ashcraft's face. He looked away, not down in shame, but instead up, up into the stands. He looked around the SkyDome, and seemed to be trying to take a mental picture. 42,000+ fans and many more of us at home saw you on the mound today, Graham. You made it, kid.

Joey Votto hit a HR in the 8th to break a tie, and the Reds won the game. He's one that may be on his way to Cooperstown.
   114. Tom Nawrocki Posted: May 22, 2022 at 09:31 PM (#6078048)
Tim Anderson just shut up the Yankee fans with a three-run homer.
   115. The Duke Posted: May 22, 2022 at 11:35 PM (#6078067)
Edman has pretty much been an everyday player since he arrived in June 2019. His hitting is improving because he's taking more walks. I think he'll close the gap with rose on the offense side soon
   116. The Duke Posted: May 22, 2022 at 11:38 PM (#6078068)
The Reds should sign Matt Carpenter - I think his game Would play well there - he seems to have fixed his game in Texas
   117. The Honorable Ardo Posted: May 23, 2022 at 01:34 AM (#6078079)
It was quite a moment in the Bronx. The crowd called out "Jackie, Jackie" as Anderson took a leisurely HR trot. As he approached home plate, he held one finger over his mouth in a "hush" gesture.

The White Sox also got a dominant outing from Michael Kopech, who retired the first 17 Yankees batters and allowed only three baserunners in seven innings.
   118. Captain Joe Bivens, Pointless and Wonderful Posted: May 23, 2022 at 06:27 AM (#6078086)
Kopech looked unhittable the inning I watched. (5th?).

Anderson's HR....wonderful.
   119. Walt Davis Posted: May 23, 2022 at 07:15 AM (#6078088)
A pointless final post in a chatter but you've simply got the wrong comp which is pretty obvious. Pete Rose hit over 300 in his career, leading the NL 3 times. He also led the NL twice in OBP. Rose even hit 335 in 1968. Edman is having a career-best "season" at 287, he's never going to be a Rose-type hitter (where "never" means "unless he pulls a Beltre").

Edman could reasonably be said to have become an everyday player in July 2019 (July 4th in fact). That gets him all the way up to 13 months. Get back to us when he's done it for about 8 years.
   120. The Duke Posted: May 23, 2022 at 09:59 AM (#6078100)
It's absolutely early days on Edman but he's broken out with an OPS+ of 142 this year which is where Rose hung out in his best years. It's a quarter of a season and a fourth of his likely career but I think he's got a lot of offensive promise. If you look at his baseball savant metrics, he's got the kind of hard hit and EV rates this year that portend a stronger future.

Because he gets a lot of his value from base running and defense, he is overlooked but this is a dynamic player who has the chance to have an elite career if he keeps improving and staying healthy. Is 80 WAR in his future? No because he started a couple years later than Rose but he could sniff 50 WAR+ at the rate he is going. He'll have close to 15 by the end of this year.
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