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Saturday, September 19, 2020

Weekend OMNICHATTER for September 19-20, 2020

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Los Angeles El Hombre of Anaheim Posted: September 19, 2020 at 03:13 PM | 42 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Walt Davis Posted: September 19, 2020 at 06:29 PM (#5977688)
There wera a lot of inter-league games yesterday which the NL nearly swept to storm into a 2-game lead over the AL. Still the NLW smashing the ALW, the ALC smacking the NLC (but not as much as they were) and the ALE with a small lead over NLE. The NL was +32 last year and +16 the year before. After a long period of AL dominance, looks like the leagues are at least equal again, maybe even the NL a smidgen ahead.
   2. stanmvp48 Posted: September 19, 2020 at 07:40 PM (#5977695)
Wade Davis DFA
   3. Walt Davis Posted: September 19, 2020 at 07:50 PM (#5977697)
Jorge Soler at a more normal 111 OPS+ and 8 HR (about 1 per 20 PA). I assume the Rox last paycheck won't bounce then they're done.
   4. The Yankee Clapper Posted: September 19, 2020 at 08:08 PM (#5977698)
Tigers Manager Ron Gardenhire retiring, effective immediately. Reportedly, he intended to retire at season’s end, but a recent bout of food poisoning caused him to accelerate his departure.
   5. phredbird Posted: September 19, 2020 at 08:36 PM (#5977700)

a day after sweeping a double header in PIT, and looking like they might start playing well again, the cards are being no hit through 6.

beautiful.
   6. cardsfanboy Posted: September 19, 2020 at 08:51 PM (#5977701)
yep... two wins in a row, means that it's going to be impossible to do anything in the next game... apparently buying a hit is also impossible.
   7. phredbird Posted: September 19, 2020 at 08:57 PM (#5977703)

pirates pull the pitcher anyway. not a bad strategy, the starting pitcher was a young feller, and the bucs have a 4-run lead.
   8. cardsfanboy Posted: September 19, 2020 at 09:01 PM (#5977705)
meanwhile the replacement has walked two batters on 9 pitches.
   9. The Yankee Clapper Posted: September 19, 2020 at 09:01 PM (#5977706)
Clint Frazier’s opposite-field, 2-run HR pushes the Yankees lead to 7-0 in Boston. 3-for-3 & 3 RBI night for Frazier (so far).
   10. cardsfanboy Posted: September 19, 2020 at 09:01 PM (#5977707)
no hitter is still intact though...
   11. cardsfanboy Posted: September 19, 2020 at 09:03 PM (#5977709)
bases loaded no outs, Cardinals still don't have a hit in this game, while being behind 4-0...... (Cardinals are at bat right now) walk, walk, hbp...

Tyler O'Neil, a guy who can easily put the ball over the fence, is at the plate... I wouldn't mind a tie game of 4-4 in which my team only has one hit.
   12. cardsfanboy Posted: September 19, 2020 at 09:09 PM (#5977711)
4-2 after a double (Yadier was on first, so no chance of scoring) is still nice... there is a decent chance the game can be tied before the inning ends.
   13. cardsfanboy Posted: September 19, 2020 at 09:09 PM (#5977712)
4-3 with a sacrifice fly.
   14. cardsfanboy Posted: September 19, 2020 at 09:15 PM (#5977714)
4-4.... fine with that
   15. The Yankee Clapper Posted: September 19, 2020 at 09:16 PM (#5977716)
J. A. Happ has only given up 2 hits, both singles, through 5 scoreless innings. Didn’t look great at the start of the season, but now appears capable of being a playoff asset for the Yanks.
   16. phredbird Posted: September 19, 2020 at 09:17 PM (#5977717)


cards get off the mat and tie the game.

pulling the pitcher blows up for the pirates. but it's still a defensible move. bullpen needed to do their job.
   17. phredbird Posted: September 19, 2020 at 09:19 PM (#5977719)

wow, wong and edmon with big clutch hits, and now we have the lead.

baseball is a funny game ...
   18. phredbird Posted: September 19, 2020 at 09:22 PM (#5977721)

bad pirate defense on edmon's hit leaves runners on 2nd and 3rd with one out.

goldschmidt with a chance to pad the lead ...

he walks, bases loaded.
   19. phredbird Posted: September 19, 2020 at 09:30 PM (#5977723)

dang, just when we were set for a big inning miller strikes out and dejong flies out.

miller looked bad on that at bat.
   20. Edmundo got dem ol' Kozma blues again mama Posted: September 19, 2020 at 09:31 PM (#5977724)
Bizarro Phils win 3rd straight over the Jays.
Vince Velasquez gives up 1 run and 2 hits in 6, then 3 relievers pitch 3 scoreless innings!
   21. Howie Menckel Posted: September 19, 2020 at 10:21 PM (#5977733)
Mets lead NL in OPS+ at 124 (before 7 runs tonight), which has to be a first.

Smith 175, Conforto 165, Nimmo 151, McNeil 145, Cano 145, Davis 124

and Alonso (105, but 147 last year) will hurt you on occasion and 24-year-old Rosario (81, off from 101 last year) may get Pipp-ed by 21-year-old Gimenez (104 this year)

that's a buzzsaw - especially when the new owner brings Realmuto to town to catch in 2021
   22. The Yankee Clapper Posted: September 19, 2020 at 11:15 PM (#5977740)
Tonight’s 8-0 Yankees win over the Red Sox was their 12th straight against Boston, tying the franchise record. Tomorrow’s historic battle for the record will feature a couple of youthful moundsmen: the Yankees Deivi Garcia versus Tanner Houck, whose 5-inning MLB debut may make him the ace of this season’s Red Sox staff.
   23. Howie Menckel Posted: September 20, 2020 at 10:40 AM (#5977752)
entering Sunday

STANDINGS

AL
1. Rays 35-18-X
2. White Sox 34-18-X
3. Athletics 33-19-X

4. Twins 32-22-X
5. Yankees 31-21
6. Astros 26-26

WILD CARDS
7. Indians 28-24
8. Blue Jays 26-26

SEA 23-29, LAA 23-30, DET 22-29, BAL 22-31, KCR 21-31
(BOS 19-34, TEX 18-34)

NL

1. Dodgers 38-15-X
2. Cubs 31-21
3. Braves 30-22

4. Padres 33-20
5. Marlins 27-24
6. Cardinals 25-24

WILD CARDS
7. Phillies 27-25
8. Reds 26-27

SFG and MIL 25-26, NYM 24-28, COL 22-29
(WAS 19-31, ARI 20-33, PIT 15-37)
   24. Captain Joe Bivens, Elderly Northeastern Jew Posted: September 20, 2020 at 10:48 AM (#5977755)
J. A. Happ has only given up 2 hits, both singles, through 5 scoreless innings. Didn’t look great at the start of the season, but now appears capable of being a playoff asset for the Yanks.
followed by
Tanner Houck, whose 5-inning MLB debut may make him the ace of this season’s Red Sox staff.


is rich.
   25. Mayor Blomberg Posted: September 20, 2020 at 11:46 AM (#5977757)
66 million possibly for one start over two years for Verlander. What's his likely earliest return date from Late Sept TJ surgery?
   26. Ziggy: social distancing since 1980 Posted: September 20, 2020 at 12:47 PM (#5977764)
Fun fact: Max Scherzer currently has the highest K/9 of his career (barely, but still) and isn't leading the league. This new baseball world is crazy. Also, Corbin Burnes (who?) is really good.
   27. The Yankee Clapper Posted: September 20, 2020 at 01:37 PM (#5977768)
Through 50 games, the 2020 Washington NationalS have the same 19-31 record as the 2019 Nationals, who went on to win the World Series.
   28. cardsfanboy Posted: September 20, 2020 at 02:22 PM (#5977771)
Through 50 games, the 2020 Washington NationalS have the same 19-31 record as the 2019 Nationals, who went on to win the World Series.


I don't think history is going to repeat itself....
   29. cardsfanboy Posted: September 20, 2020 at 02:23 PM (#5977772)
Also, Corbin Burnes (who?) is really good.


Yesterday was literally the first time I've even seen or heard of him... doing a search to see it Waino had a chance of getting a Cy Young vote, and this name kept popping up.... I get that I'm not watching baseball actively, but how in the world have I missed this guy? And the guy plays for a divisional rival... you would think at the minimum I would know of him...
   30. Russlan thinks deGrom is da bomb Posted: September 20, 2020 at 03:20 PM (#5977774)
66 million possibly for one start over two years for Verlander. What's his likely earliest return date from Late Sept TJ surgery?

He didn't make 33 million this year. Still, the overall point stands.
   31. Edmundo got dem ol' Kozma blues again mama Posted: September 20, 2020 at 04:21 PM (#5977776)
Adonis Medina making his first start for the Phils. Rough first inning, walked the first two batters in the second but then settled down to allow no further damage. He has nice movement but command appears to be a problem. (Super small sample size caveat applies))
   32. Walt Davis Posted: September 20, 2020 at 05:18 PM (#5977780)
Well ... for 2018-19, Burnes was a reliever with a ton of Ks and mediocre results just like a million other guys. This year if we had noticed him for anything, it would have been his bizarre usage pattern (by today's standards) -- a 3 inning start followed by relief apperances of 3.2, 5.1 and 3.2 innings. Maybe they were trying to turn him into a super-Hader.

Anyway, at that point he had 16 IP, an impressive 24 K but a less impressive 11 BB. Then they stuck him in the rotation and told him if he didn't throw strikes, they'd kill this puppy because in 40 IP since joining the rotation, it's 59/11 K/BB which is gonna win you some ball games and help you towards a Gibby 1.13 ERA. (The 274 BABIP is low but not insanely so.) But it is still just 40 innings of being the greatest pitcher we've ever seen so don't feel too bad that you (and I) had never heard of him.
   33. Ziggy: social distancing since 1980 Posted: September 20, 2020 at 06:11 PM (#5977786)
Adonis Medina making his first start for the Phils. Rough first inning, walked the first two batters in the second


You'd think he'd look better than that.
   34. Walt Davis Posted: September 20, 2020 at 06:14 PM (#5977787)
More on Burnes. Pre-2018 he made the bottom third of the prospect lists. He got 30 relief appearances, 38 IP and was up for half the season but apparently even BA didn't notice as they had him at #46 on their 2019 list (per b-r). His career minor-league K-rate was 9 while in the majors it's been 12. Nobody saw him coming.

Cool factoid though -- he was quite good as a reliever in 2018 (really, how did BA not notice) and actually went 7-0 which is cool. He was their 6th inning reliever of choice and a 7th inning choice when tied or down 1. But only 2 of his 30 entries were with the lead after the 6th -- so even the Brewers didn't think that much of him. In 2019, still rarely used late with a small lead althoug the fact he was getting horrible results with an ERA near 9 might have had something to do with that. :-) That they kept pitching him at all suggests somebody had some faith in him (he had options left).

Now at 25 he's the greatest pitcher we've ever seen. Baseball is a funny game.
   35. Howie Menckel Posted: September 20, 2020 at 06:24 PM (#5977790)
Burnes was everybody's favorite fantasy baseball "sleeper" a year or two ago.

he was terrible last year but if you dug deeper, you could squint and see a little gold there.

have seen more stunning breakthroughs than him
   36. cardsfanboy Posted: September 20, 2020 at 06:25 PM (#5977791)
Turn on the game, Cardinals losing 1-0.... pfftt... that sucks....

Cardinals not leading 2-1 Yea that is great.... Pirates relief pitching apparently really sucks.
   37. Ziggy: social distancing since 1980 Posted: September 20, 2020 at 06:29 PM (#5977792)
It's only 56 innings and all, but his FIP matches his ERA. (And Bob Gibson's FIP from 1968.)

But it's Trevor Bauer who is leading the league in ERA+. (Burns is second.) This probably wasn't the season the Reds had in mind when they traded Taylor Trammell and Puig for him, but he's keeping up his end of the bargain. Max Fried, who is yet to give up a home run, is leading the league in pitching WAR. Corbin and Fried have X-0 records, Bauer is 4-4.
   38. Walt Davis Posted: September 20, 2020 at 09:53 PM (#5977819)
Cubs seem determined to find out how many games they can win while averaging less than a run per game. My guess is not many.
   39. The Duke Posted: September 20, 2020 at 09:58 PM (#5977820)
Voit with 21, arozerena killing it with the rays, ozuna back to 2017 form, Luis Robert to win rookie of the year, etc etc. If the cardinals work a little bit harder, they could create an entire 25 man roster of all-stars elsewhere while continuing to have terrible players start for the home team. Mozeliak has missed on almost everything. Apparently we are only good at finding pitchers in Asian leagues.
   40. Ziggy: social distancing since 1980 Posted: September 20, 2020 at 10:13 PM (#5977835)
Apparently we are only good at finding pitchers in Asian leagues.


And practically everything else they've done over the past 150 years.
   41. Walt Davis Posted: September 20, 2020 at 10:15 PM (#5977838)
Robert's been in a massive slump -- 071/100/071 over his last 31 PA entering Sunday (and 0-2 with a couple of walks today) -- so some shine has come off that RoY campaign with an OPS+ down to 105 and a sub-300 OBP. The K rate is 32%, the BABIP is just 292. Still well above-average thanks to 9 Rfield and I have no idea who the other AL contenders are so probably still a good shot at RoY but it's looking more like an ordinary RoY season.

He's only 22, this isn't some prediction for his future. But looks like they've found a weakness, now he needs to adjust.
   42. Howie Menckel Posted: September 20, 2020 at 10:57 PM (#5977847)
entering Monday

STANDINGS

AL
1. Rays 35-19-X
2. White Sox 34-19-X
3. Athletics 33-20-X

4. Twins 33-22-X
5. Yankees 31-22-X
6. Astros 27-26

WILD CARDS
7. Indians 29-24
8. Blue Jays 27-26

SEA 23-30, LAA and BAL 23-31, DET 22-30
(KCR 21-32, BOS 20-34, TEX 19-34)

NL

1. Dodgers 38-16-X
2. Cubs 31-22
2. Braves 31-22

4. Padres 34-20-X
5. Marlins 28-25
6. Cardinals 26-24

WILD CARDS
7. Phillies 27-26
8. Reds 27-27
8. Brewers 26-26
8. Giants 26-26

NYM 24-29, COL 23-29
(WAS 20-32, ARI 20-34, PIT 15-38)

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