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Saturday, October 12, 2019

Phils’ Middleton overruled MacPhail, Klentak to fire Kapler

PHILADELPHIA (AP) — John Middleton runs the show in Philadelphia.

The Phillies managing partner made that clear Friday, a day after manager Gabe Kapler was fired despite resistance from Team President Andy MacPhail and general manager Matt Klentak.

“A CEO’s responsibility is to ensure an organization achieves its strategic objectives, and everything I do every day is working toward that end,” Middleton said.

Philadelphia’s front office spent weeks deliberating Kapler’s fate before Middleton decided to remove him. Kapler went 161-163 in two seasons.

Type-A owner, Type-A most prominent player, Type-A fan base- this could get rather entertaining…..

 

QLE Posted: October 12, 2019 at 12:15 AM | 6 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
  Tags: andy macphail, john middleton, matt klentak, phillies

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   1. send the 57i66135 over with flamethrowers Posted: October 12, 2019 at 12:59 AM (#5889674)
i think middleton has pretty good instincts about when to step in. he closed the deal for harper; he fired the hitting coach; now, he fired kapler. i think those were all correct choices.

however, i wonder why he doesn't just fire macphail and klentak, considering A: he doesn't trust them to run the organization, and B: their results aren't good enough to keep his hands out of the day to day business. i mean, i know why ($$$), but man, just rip off the bandaid.
   2. stevegamer Posted: October 12, 2019 at 01:16 AM (#5889675)
I'm glad he did. Kapler is not a good manager, and there's every likelihood they will get somebody at least as good or better.
   3. Walt Davis Posted: October 12, 2019 at 01:54 AM (#5889676)
McPhail was pretty good when he was running the Cubs but his decisions could be agonizingly slow. Why exactly was it taking the FO weeks to deliberate Kapler's fate? And why couldn't they come to a decision by the traditional deadline of the end of the season? I can certainly see a CEO saying "you still can't make an overwhelming case to keep him so obviously we can do better."
   4. Dr. Vaux Posted: October 12, 2019 at 02:45 AM (#5889681)
Didn't we recently have an unusually low number of manager changes for a few years in a row? I figured that was caused by of a combination of reluctance to pay for two managers at once with realization that managers didn't matter very much. Now, shortly thereafter, we're seeing an unusually high number of changes. If the Dodgers had fired Dave Roberts, like they should have (I don't know when to fire a manager if not when his decisions cost the team postseason series multiple years in a row), there would currently be a third of the MLB teams' manager positions open.
   5. The Duke Posted: October 12, 2019 at 08:26 AM (#5889693)
I think Middleton is saying the season ending sweep by the Nats was the genesis of the decision so it stands to reason that it would take another week or so to make the final decision.
   6. Walt Davis Posted: October 12, 2019 at 05:07 PM (#5889830)
#4 -- nearly the entire managerial corps has been turned over in the last few years. Most of the new guys are young and on short-term, low-money contracts. Teams still seem to mostly be letting contracts run out but they're shorter contracts. Also if you do fire a guy mid-contract, given he and his replacement make only about $1 M means there's no issue with carrying two of them. Most of the current bunch had no previous experience, often not even minor-league managing experience. So no track record, short contract, low money -- managers are highly fungible at the moment.

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