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Wednesday, April 28, 2021

White Sox lose a head-scratcher to Tigers

This was a game with blowout written all over it, but the Sox were unable to cash in on the Tigers’ atrocious defense. Manager Tony La Russa opted to leave Giolito in the game in the seventh inning when Detroit tagged him for 3 runs on 2 hits and 2 walks.

Add it all up, and it was a tumultuous 5-2 loss for the White Sox.

“I didn’t have much left in the tank,” Giolito said of the disastrous seventh.

La Russa said he didn’t realize Giolito was out of gas.

“That’s my fault for not recognizing it,” he said. “If you remember, I think I relieved him in the sixth inning early in the season. He’s several starts into it, he’s stronger, but if he felt like he didn’t have much left, that’s something I should have recognized.”

Giolito blamed himself.

“The seventh was my inning,” he said. “I have to get the job done, I didn’t. It doesn’t matter how I’m feeling.”

RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: April 28, 2021 at 12:19 AM | 11 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Lowry Seasoning Salt Posted: April 28, 2021 at 01:10 AM (#6015802)
Let us remember La Russa's fine words upon being hired this past offseason:

“There’s a lot of great, new information, a lot of great ways that you can improve how you coach up or prepare. The difference is that once the game starts, there is no formula that can measure the head, heart and guts of a player that day.”
   2. catomi01 Posted: April 28, 2021 at 06:22 AM (#6015809)
19 years in a DMB league and I finally draft and develop a Giolito, please don't break him.
   3. Starring Bradley Scotchman as RMc Posted: April 28, 2021 at 06:27 AM (#6015810)
To be fair, losing to Detroit (in any sport) is a head-scratcher.
   4. Brian C Posted: April 28, 2021 at 09:07 AM (#6015819)
“That’s my fault for not recognizing it,” he said. “If you remember, I think I relieved him in the sixth inning early in the season. He’s several starts into it, he’s stronger, but if he felt like he didn’t have much left, that’s something I should have recognized.”

Ah, I see that LaRussa's still feigning accountability while subtly throwing his player under the bus.
   5. Dag Nabbit at ExactlyAsOld.com Posted: April 28, 2021 at 09:18 AM (#6015822)
(shrugs)

The pitcher allowed 1 run on 3 hits in 6 innings, having thrown 89 pitches total and the manager brings him back out for the 7th. That's ..... pretty routine. What sucks for Giolotto is he got a quick 0-2 on the first two batters in the inning - only to see the PA's drag on for 17 pitches total, and result in just one out.
   6. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: April 28, 2021 at 10:03 AM (#6015828)
The pitcher allowed 1 run on 3 hits in 6 innings, having thrown 89 pitches total and the manager brings him back out for the 7th. That's ..... pretty routine.

Yeah, your ace needs to be able to pitch that inning.
   7. Dag Nabbit at ExactlyAsOld.com Posted: April 28, 2021 at 10:12 AM (#6015830)
The really wild thing is Detroit made errors in five consecutive innings. They were bailed out by double plays in three consecutive innings.

20 ground balls & 5 fly balls allowed to the Tiger starting pitcher. A rather extreme ratio.
   8. Rough Carrigan Posted: April 28, 2021 at 12:58 PM (#6015843)
Wait, is this "Creeping LaRussaism"?
   9. pikepredator Posted: April 28, 2021 at 01:26 PM (#6015849)
The pitcher allowed 1 run on 3 hits in 6 innings, having thrown 89 pitches total and the manager brings him back out for the 7th. That's ..... pretty routine. What sucks for Giolotto is he got a quick 0-2 on the first two batters in the inning - only to see the PA's drag on for 17 pitches total, and result in just one out.


Just . . . couldn't . . . put . . . the batter away. If anything is a hallmark of tiring, that seems to be an obvious one. Lose a little speed, a little action on breaking pitches, and swing-and-misses become foul balls. But it would be way premature to pull him before that inning when he's been cruising like that.
   10. Walt Davis Posted: April 28, 2021 at 05:29 PM (#6015920)
Yeah, your ace needs to be able to pitch that inning.

No your ace (and every other pitcher and player) needs to know they can come to you and say "Sorry coach, I don't have it today."

Beyond that ... 6 innings, having thrown 89 pitches total and the manager brings him back out for the 7th. That's ..... pretty routine. Yep. Then ... What sucks for Giolotto is he got a quick 0-2 on the first two batters in the inning - only to see the PA's drag on for 17 pitches total, and result in just one out. ... Not routine and now he's on 106 pitches and unable to put guys away.

20/20 hindsight but the walk after 0-2 on Castro, a guy with 3 walks in 85 PA coming into the day, should have gotten a reliever up. Nine pitches to get a flyout from Baddoo -- who I gather from the pbp must have fouled off at least 5 pitches -- another batter with a 40% K-rate and a walk every 30 PAs, it would have been less embarrasing to give up a first-pitch HR to the guy.

Giolito got to throw 8 more pitches. Five were balls and the three strikes were hit for a 2B, a HR and a fly to deep CF. Just how much did LaRussa need to see to get somebody ready? (And just how bad did it have to get before Giolito would take himself out?)
   11. Walt Davis Posted: April 28, 2021 at 05:35 PM (#6015923)
Dean Smith had a rule that a player could signal to the bench that he was tired and, as long as he did that, then he could go back into the game as soon as he said he was ready ... but if Dean had to pull him on his own for being tired, then he'd be sitting for a good chunk of time. I'd try that with my starting pitchers -- if you pull yourself when you're tired then I'll leave you in when you tell me you're good. Obviously it would be nice to have enough warning to get a reliever ready otherwise he's gonna have to survive the next couple of batters.

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