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Sunday, November 19, 2023
1. Alex Rodriguez, SS, 2000-01 offseason
Previous team: Mariners
Signed with: Rangers
He was 25 when he hit the market in the baseball winter of 2000. Again: This isn’t about what we discovered about him later. This is about what we saw then. And what we saw was a shortstop who’d hit 125 homers his last three seasons with the Mariners, and knocked in 367 runs. Then he went to the Rangers and hit 52 homers, then 57 and 47 in his first three seasons there, and knocked in 135 and 142 and 118.
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1. John Northey Posted: November 19, 2023 at 08:10 PM (#6147647)Pete's tour
Bobby Bonilla? WTF. His payment thru 2035 had barely nothing to do with his free agent signing, it had to do with his release in 1999 when he was nearly washed up.
A pity A-Rod wasn't on the market back then.
I was going to ask if Senior going to the Yankees was a hyped FA signing, but it looks like he was traded. That leaves Rose and Don Gullett as the biggest FA departures from the Big Red Machine.
I don't remember anything on Twitter or Tiktok about that signing.
Exactly.
https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/37938979/bobby-bonilla-day-2023-new-york-mets-paid-119m-every-july-1
The hype was in fact huge. He ended up getting the largest free agent contract to date at the time--from the Mets, who still owned NYC (which would cease to be so during the ensuing 1992 season). But ...
This is correct -- the buyout related to his second tour of duty with the Mets, not the first. Not many people cared where Bonilla was signing before the 1999 season.
Bonilla would be the highest paid player in baseball in 1992, 1993, and 1994 until 25 players passed him in 1995 (topped by Cecil Fielder at ($9.2M per year)
Bonds got a bit more money than Bobby Bo, but not a lot more and it seems that was just inflation, signing one year later.I’d guess they would have had about the same contract if they were both available in the same year. Which really looks strange considering Bonds was twice the player, even before steroids.
Absolutely. I kind of expected better from Lupica, who’s been following the game since his childhood in the 50s and has seen every free agent market. This reads more like “best players signed through free agency”, not most hyped. For example, Randy Johnson is on the list. He is absolutely one of the greatest free agent signings ever. He signed for 4 years and ended that run with 4 more CyYoungs. But he was 100% not the most hyped free agent pitcher of the 1998-99 offseason. That would be Kevin Brown, who got almost double the money of Johnson. And Brown is not on the list.
My memory is the big question for Johnson was whether a 4th year was too big of a risk.
The missing un-story is the collusive activity c. 1986. My sense is that the Dawson-Raines-Morris offseason received especially intense coverage.
Dawson of course generated his own huge coverage when he came to Cubs' camp and first dared then practically forced them to sign him. That was a huge deal although it was only a few days of "hype." (In fairness to the Cubs, they gave him a hefty contract the next year.) But otherwise the FA freeze was mostly an un-story as you put it. I recall plenty of writers pointing out the unfairness of it all but "again no offers for Tim Raines today" isn't much of a story and it was pretty clear pretty quickly what was going to happen.
Reggie ... I don't really remember there being huge hype. Seems odd so I suspect my memory is off. Maybe it was just so obvious neither the Cubs nor Sox were interested so it didn't get local coverage? We were still getting used to the whole thing -- there wasn't good understanding of what Finley was up to and the trades were covered like old-school trades, not deals of pending FAs (an issue that continued for 25+ years). And, 76 WS appearance regardless, the Yanks weren't the Evil Empire yet (Star Wars debuted that summer).
Sometimes the perfect comedy line writes itself.
As for Reggie, as I recall it "everybody" had been assuming for over a year he'd be going to the Yankees after playing that one year in Baltimore. Doesn't make for the biggest hype if there's a consensus as to where he'd end up.
I once started writing up an alternative history for some players, pretending FA had already existed. Seaver was one. I don't remember what I came up with but something along the lines of the Mets signing him to a big arb/FA buyout (hopefully before the CYA for their sakes) but of course it would only run through maybe 29-30 and, panicked after 1974, they'd trade the last year of that contract ... I do recall they still trade him to the Reds. :-) I think I did Banks -- kinad ARodish -- and maybe Nolan Ryan -- doesn't do that well. The main "fun" was usually around trying to figure out where the pending FA would get traded and for whom.
For Carlton, oddly enough, he would have had a bit over 5 years service time after 1971 which is when he was traded. He's made 3 AS teams but really the numbers aren't that impressive. He had a solid 1970 (111 ERA+) with lousy results (10-19) and a blah 1971 (102) with excellent results (20-9). He's closer to Aaron Nola or Framber Valdez (but younger than both) than he is to Steve Carlton. Do the Cards get such a good return? Do the Phils extend him before that monster 1972 season? Why in the world would he re-up with the Phils? Why in the world would the Phils trade for a top pending FA starter coming off 67 wins? That would never happen today.
So would the Reds make a push for him? Or would the Dodgers decide it's time to make a splash or the Pirates try to get over the hump? The Reds have plenty to offer in a young Foster, Griffey or Carbo (who got traded to StL later in 1972) ... or maybe Gary Nolan or Grimsley or Gullett?
I'd never really thought before about how the trade really made no sense from the Phils' perspective. Of course in those days, you got to keep the player for as long as you wanted and star players didn't really cost any more than regular guys ... you had to pay them a bit extra to keep them from grumbling or sitting out but, under the rules of the time, the Phils could simply decide that Carlton was probably better (for longer) than Wise.
Yeah, Grich would never have gotten the media hype. But he was more desirable to the Yankees than Reggie, according to that book.
I’ll have to re-read it. I’ve forgotten some of the exact circumstances, like details of the re-entry draft that meant teams had limits on how many players a team could sign, or even negotiate with.
I remember Bonds's deal seeming humongous. It was like 6 years/$43 mil, as opposed to Bonilla's 5 years/$29 million. That's 50% more guaranteed money (and obviously he was worth at least that much more than Bonilla).
Dude. Too great.
He was a little better than I remember as a hitter but still, he was mostly a .280-ish hitter with 20-something HR power, in the parlance of the time. He did have lots of RBIs so that probably helped. By modern standards, it's a similar picture. From 1989-1991, among qualified hitters, Bonilla ranked 14th with a wRC+ of 139.
And even at the time, without a good way to measure defense statistically, he was considered a liability with the glove. By the time he reached free agency at age 28, he had already been mostly moved off 3B to RF, where he was not considered very good either.
It was a bidding war that got out of hand for a good but not great player.
On the field, he was supposed to have a wealth of intangibles. Off the field, he was bankable. The Phils were able to get an increase in their TV money on condition they signed Rose.
It looks like Grich hit free agency when Willie Randolph had just completed his first season with the Yankees? Doesn't seem like a big need, although George always liked to upgrade.
The Randy Johnson free agency carousel has its own retrospective on mlbtraderumors.com:
https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2013/03/free-agent-retrospective-randy-johnson.html
The main news I remember about Brown is the clause to fly his family to games, which may have been one of the first times that was well known and discussed.
Oh, get lost. Where Junior would end up was the biggest story in baseball for a year. He ended up getting traded, but he chose the team and signing an extension was a condition of the trade.
These have to be the biggest baseball free agency stories of all time. Nowadays a $400M contract is just the next biggest contract and it fills the news cycle for a day or two. Back then dynasties were being built overnight or collapsing because of something that had been unthinkable only a few years before. It triggered an existential debate for years on the true source of evil in baseball, the team jumping players or the owners who had turned to opportunistic roster robbing.
I think in my fandom (late 80s on), the biggest hype was around:
1. Alex Rodriguez
2. Manny Ramirez (I do remember that documentary following Jeff Moorad around)
3. Randy Johnson
4. Bryce Harper
I feel like Barry Bonds and Greg Maddux didn't seem to have as much hoopla, was it because they narrowed it down to like 2-3 teams from the outset?
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