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WILD CARD OMNICHATTER!

Yankees vs. Red Sox
Gerrit Cole vs. Nathan Eovaldi

Cardinals vs. Dodgers
Adam Wainwright vs. Mas Scherzer

Scoreboards for the Major Leagues and all minor leagues,
courtesy of Jefferson Manship (Dan Lee).

Hombre Brotani Posted: October 04, 2021 at 09:39 PM | 425 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   101. Textbook Editor Posted: October 06, 2021 at 12:42 AM (#6043914)
Floop
   102. Starring Bradley Scotchman as RMc Posted: October 06, 2021 at 07:48 AM (#6043924)
60 AB + 7 BB + 16 side changes + 8 pitching changes = 91 events in 193 minutes, or 2.12 MPE...pretty typical for a modern playoff game. (Actually, slightly less than the 2.15 average for all playoff games since 2010.)
   103. jmurph Posted: October 06, 2021 at 08:37 AM (#6043930)
So who are the Yankees firing? I demand post-season chaos.
   104. Jose Has Absurd Goosebump Arms Posted: October 06, 2021 at 08:50 AM (#6043932)
I'll be stunned if Boone is back. Cashman is pretty safe it seems though he's definitely taking some heat.

I understand Stanton pimping that first rocket to left, but man after you've done that in the first inning how do you do it again in the 6th?

60 AB + 7 BB + 16 side changes + 8 pitching changes = 91 events in 193 minutes, or 2.12 MPE


For me this is the important element of the game time discussion. It's not the length of the game so much as the time between events.
   105. bunyon Posted: October 06, 2021 at 08:54 AM (#6043933)
One thing I noticed is that most, if not all, of the relievers, walked to the mound from where ever they were once they were summoned. They either need to make them run or give them a ride.

I'd also do away with the slow walk to the mound (does Boone have a hip problem?) to take a pitcher out when we all know the pitcher is coming out. Signal it from the bench and send the new pitcher in.

Could probably shave 4 or 5 minutes there. Way more than an intentional walk or a leadoff double in extras.
   106. Rally Posted: October 06, 2021 at 08:58 AM (#6043934)
George Elder is now the oldest former MLBer.


Some point in the future, it will be Max Venable.
   107. Lassus Posted: October 06, 2021 at 09:08 AM (#6043936)
Are you trying to jinx Venable to death? Is there an inheritance involved?
   108. winnipegwhip Posted: October 06, 2021 at 09:15 AM (#6043938)
I'd also do away with the slow walk to the mound (does Boone have a hip problem?) to take a pitcher out when we all know the pitcher is coming out. Signal it from the bench and send the new pitcher in.


I have said for the past few years there should be a clock on the pitching change. Once a manager steps on the mound the clock starts if he decides to drag his feet in the decision (he usually already knows what he is doing) then it takes away from the number of warmup pitches the reliever gets. It would also reduce seeing the manager make his decision and the reliever make two more pitches in the bullpen before he starts his way to the mound.

But that would reduce the window of opportunity to get prop bets entered with the change so why should Manfred care.
   109. bunyon Posted: October 06, 2021 at 09:28 AM (#6043941)
True about the role of gambling. The problem with pace will almost certainly get worse the next few years.

If BBTF ran MLB, I would have a manager/coach clock, like the curling clock. Start it at 8 minutes. If a manager or coach leaves the dugout for any reason other than an injury to one of their players, the clock runs until he's back in the dugout. Not the mound, the dugout. If a reliever throws another warm up after he's summoned, he gets no warmups on the mound.

We all know your pitcher is dying out there. Replace him and get on with it.
   110. Jose Has Absurd Goosebump Arms Posted: October 06, 2021 at 09:50 AM (#6043948)
I have said for the past few years there should be a clock on the pitching change.


This was a thing a few years ago. Not sure what happened. I remember Papelbon getting fined because he took too long (Jonathan handled it with the good grace and measured tones you would expect).
   111. jmurph Posted: October 06, 2021 at 09:56 AM (#6043949)
The time between batters last night- no pitching change involved- was pretty bonkers in the late innings.
   112. jmurph Posted: October 06, 2021 at 09:57 AM (#6043950)
Cashman is pretty safe it seems though he's definitely taking some heat.

His permanence is very confusing to me.
   113. Jack Sommers Posted: October 06, 2021 at 09:58 AM (#6043952)
Was that the sticky stuff crackdown?


hey, sorry, missed this last night. yes. The link was to video of his tortured attempt not to answer direct questions about whether or not he used Spider Tack.

Avg Spin Rates Thru June 16th --- after June 20th

Fastballs: 2531---2385
Breaking: 2753---2620
OffSpeed: 1740---1698

   114. Jose Has Absurd Goosebump Arms Posted: October 06, 2021 at 10:36 AM (#6043964)
Cashman is pretty safe it seems though he's definitely taking some heat.


His permanence is very confusing to me.

The Yankees are a good organization that regularly wins 90+ games. He has his flaws but there is a very good chance the Yankees would get considerably worse at GM if they let Cashman go.
   115. TomH Posted: October 06, 2021 at 11:30 AM (#6043972)
A few interesting items, which also drive my rooting interest (I have the dispassionate rooting interest of a robot it would seem)
Remaining teams ranked by years since last WS trophy
LAD 1 BOS 3 HOU 4 SF 7 STL 10
CHW 16 ATL 25 TB xxx MIL xxx
--
Remaining teams ranked by WS trophies in my MLB-watching life
TB MIL
ATL CHW HOU

SF
STL BOS LA
--
Remaining teams ranked by 2021 W-L record (a measure of “deservedness to win”)
SF LA TB HOU MIL
CHW BOS STL ATL
--
Put it all together, I am rooting for teams who have won less, and less recently, and who had the best 2021:
TB
MIL
CHW
SF
ATL
HOU – one minus point for trash cans
ATL
LA
STL
BOS
--
go RAYS, WHITE SOX, BREWERS, GIANTS!
   116. bunyon Posted: October 06, 2021 at 11:47 AM (#6043974)
I co-sign 115 but would move up ATL a hair because of a history of rooting for them. Because I live in the SE and watched all my 2021 MLB on MLB.tv, I saw zero ATL games this year all tthe way through. Weird. First time since probably 1975.
   117. JJ1986 Posted: October 06, 2021 at 12:01 PM (#6043978)
Rays first, then Milwaukee. I'd probably put the Dodgers third since I don't actually think of last year as a real championship. Then Chicago reluctantly. No to the Braves. Bigger no to the Cardinals. Giants, Red Sox and Astros have all just won.
   118. Jose Has Absurd Goosebump Arms Posted: October 06, 2021 at 12:03 PM (#6043979)
Man Tom come on. There are kids who will enter pre-Kindergarten next year in the Boston area who have never seen a Red Sox world series title. Have a heart.
   119. JustDan Posted: October 06, 2021 at 12:14 PM (#6043986)
Remaining teams ranked by WS trophies in my MLB-watching life
TB MIL
ATL CHW HOU

SF
STL BOS LA

The Astros won in 2017 which is more recently than the Giants. Maybe they should be on the same line as SF?
   120. bunyon Posted: October 06, 2021 at 12:21 PM (#6043988)
I didn't read that as recency but how many. SF has still won three of the last twelve.
   121. SoSH U at work Posted: October 06, 2021 at 12:21 PM (#6043989)
The Astros won in 2017 which is more recently than the Giants. Maybe they should be on the same line as SF?


That's total WS victories in his baseball-watching lifetime, which we can pinpoint to have begun in 1964 or 1965.
   122. JustDan Posted: October 06, 2021 at 12:29 PM (#6043990)
Ah, got it. Thanks.
BTW since my team is out this pretty much jives with my list except that Houston get more than -1 for the trash cans.
   123. Nasty Nate Posted: October 06, 2021 at 12:44 PM (#6043991)
   124. The Gary DiSarcina Fan Club (JAHV) Posted: October 06, 2021 at 01:01 PM (#6043996)
I'm good with the team order in 115, only I would switch LA and SF in the list. I know LA just won last year, but as someone else said, the championship from last year doesn't feel completely real. Also, I grew up rooting for the Dodgers as my second team and thus cannot root for the Giants.

I would also put "Armageddon" in there before Boston.
   125. jacksone (AKA It's OK...) Posted: October 06, 2021 at 01:20 PM (#6044000)

I would also put "Armageddon" in there before Boston.


Are there any unlikable players on the Sox? Or is it just 'Boston'?
   126. My name is Votto, and I love to get Moppo Posted: October 06, 2021 at 01:20 PM (#6044001)
Avg Spin Rates Thru June 16th --- after June 20th

Fastballs: 2531---2385
Breaking: 2753---2620
OffSpeed: 1740---1698


That doesn't seem that drastic (only a ~5%) change. He also had an IL stint, so I don't think it's the only reason for his higher ERA in the second half.
   127. My name is Votto, and I love to get Moppo Posted: October 06, 2021 at 01:51 PM (#6044008)
Here's my rooting interest:

FOR: Brewers, Rays, Cardinals
NEUTRAL: White Sox, Giants, Braves
AGAINST: Astros, Red Sox

Jacksone, the players are fine, but I do lump Cora into the cheating bucket. That gets Boston thumbs-down from me.
   128. TomH Posted: October 06, 2021 at 02:12 PM (#6044013)
MLB began for me in 1967. A nerd 2nd grader who liked seeing Y'str'mski on top of all of the leaderboards every Sunday paper.
   129. The Yankee Clapper Posted: October 06, 2021 at 02:15 PM (#6044015)
I suppose AL East solidarity is sufficient to get me mildly behind the Rays for the remainder of the playoffs. After that, the Giants & Brewers also deserve to be rewarded for a job well done.
   130. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: October 06, 2021 at 02:23 PM (#6044016)
FOR: Rays, White Sox, Astros
NEUTRAL+: Red Sox, Brewers
NEUTRAL: Cardinals
NEUTRAL-: Giants
AGAINST: Dodgers
HATE TO SEE WIN: Braves (Their zombie fans with the tomahawk chop should stick to Florida State football)
   131. TomH Posted: October 06, 2021 at 02:34 PM (#6044021)
Q for anyone familiar with Dodger stadium:
First pitch at 5:10 local; sunset at 6:30, which would be about 4th inning. Both starters might be expected to pitch until 6:30-7:20 pm

How is seeing the pitch at these hours; not daytime, not nighttime. Is there any advantage (beyond normal) for the big-KO pitcher at these hours?
   132. salvomania Posted: October 06, 2021 at 02:37 PM (#6044024)
Is there any advantage (beyond normal) for the big-KO pitcher at these hours?

I fully expect Wainwright to aim his curveball to break at the shadow, wherever that happens to be.
   133. The Duke Posted: October 06, 2021 at 02:47 PM (#6044026)
Juan yepez makes cardinals roster. Has never been on a major league roster let alone played in an MLB game.

He is the guy the cards got from Atlanta for Matt adams many years ago and just broke out at AAA this year. Still pretty young
   134. Infinite Yost (Voxter) Posted: October 06, 2021 at 02:53 PM (#6044028)
How is seeing the pitch at these hours; not daytime, not nighttime. Is there any advantage (beyond normal) for the big-KO pitcher at these hours?


I'm not a season ticket holder or anything, but I've been there 7-8 times over the years, and I used to live in LA and watched a lot of games on the tube. The stadium is oriented with CF in the NE and home plate in the SW. This time of year it's going behind the third base stand at sunset, SSW. It'll mess with batters through the early innings, but the stand is also way taller than most modern stadiums, so it'll be behind it before 6.30, would be my guess. Both the starters tonight are righties, meaning their release point will be in shadow earlier; Kershaw and Koufax before him have been known to take advantage of the evening sun because they pitch out of it and into the shade.

Really, though, the guy who is most affected is the RF. I've seen a lot of dudes lose balls in the glare out there. More than other places, it seems to me, though of course I could be making that up, since we don't exactly have stats on that.
   135. salvomania Posted: October 06, 2021 at 03:23 PM (#6044032)
He is the guy the cards got from Atlanta for Matt adams many years ago and just broke out at AAA this year. Still pretty young

I'd heard the name but know nothing about him, looking at his bb-ref page he seems lightyears better as a bat off the bench than anyone else on the roster. Certainly better than a Matt Carpenter (whom I have a soft spot for, but a .581 OPS ain't cuttin it, nor is his 9-for-60 line as a PH in 2021).
   136. winnipegwhip Posted: October 06, 2021 at 04:03 PM (#6044039)
Wouldn't a Milwaukee vs Tampa Bay World Series be television ratings poison for FOX? Only Toronto vs Milwaukee could be worse I think. Therefore Milwaukee vs Tampa Bay would be nice to see.

Also wouldn't the following be a Cubs fans nightmare.

White Sox vs Brewers or White Sox vs Cardinals? Which therefore would get my support.

   137. salvomania Posted: October 06, 2021 at 04:22 PM (#6044043)
Cardinals
1. Tommy Edman (S) 2B
2. Paul Goldschmidt (R) 1B
3. Tyler O'Neill (R) LF
4. Nolan Arenado (R) 3B
5. Dylan Carlson (S) RF
6. Yadier Molina (R) C
7. Edmundo Sosa (R) SS
8. Harrison Bader (R) CF
9. Adam Wainwright (R) P

Dodgers
1. Mookie Betts (R) RF
2. Corey Seager (L) SS
3. Trea Turner (R) 2B
4. Justin Turner (R) 3B
5. Will Smith (R) C
6. AJ Pollock (R) LF
7. Matt Beaty (L) 1B
8. Cody Bellinger (L) CF
9. Max Scherzer (R) P
   138. Infinite Yost (Voxter) Posted: October 06, 2021 at 04:25 PM (#6044045)
9. Adam Wainwright (R) P


I sorta hadn't realized Wainwright was still around. I had decided in my mind that he was done five years ago and quit tracking him. But here he is, 39, throwing pretty much as many innings as anybody, and still good.
   139. salvomania Posted: October 06, 2021 at 04:25 PM (#6044046)
Good to see Sosa in there for the Cardinals, assuming his wrist is OK. Similar defense to Dejong, but better speed, and more prone to put the ball in play, which are little things that could play a role in a game in which "small ball" could make a difference...
   140. salvomania Posted: October 06, 2021 at 04:26 PM (#6044047)
But here he is, 39

Actually turned 40 in August.
   141. JustDan Posted: October 06, 2021 at 04:34 PM (#6044050)
Bellinger starting over Taylor! I'm not sure about that.
   142. The Gary DiSarcina Fan Club (JAHV) Posted: October 06, 2021 at 04:43 PM (#6044051)
Are there any unlikable players on the Sox?


All of them.
   143. Tin Angel Posted: October 06, 2021 at 04:47 PM (#6044052)
Disappointed Pujols isn't starting...was looking forward to him vs. Wainwright.
   144. Nasty Nate Posted: October 06, 2021 at 04:51 PM (#6044054)
12 years ago, Wainwright made his first postseason start. Yadier Molina was catching. And Pujols and Kershaw were there.
   145. Infinite Yost (Voxter) Posted: October 06, 2021 at 04:56 PM (#6044055)
Actually turned 40 in August.


The best of us are in our 40s.
   146. Walt Davis Posted: October 06, 2021 at 06:08 PM (#6044064)
Re #115 ...

I just can't root for the Rays. I respect them as an organization, they're good enough to win it ... but that's an ugly stadium, they barely seem to take themselves seriously as a long-term franchise and they have no fans. How pathetic will it be when 1,000 people turn out for the WS parade?

And obviously not the White Sox and no enthusiasm for the Red Sox or Astros although big playoffs for Schwarber or Correa would be OK.

Milwaukee would go nuts if they won, that would be a celebration. Maybe because I left Chicago long before the Brewers moved to the NL but I've never felt any particular animus towards the Brewers, no more than the Pirates or Reds.

I think the Dodgers might be the best team of my baseball lifetime -- but they couldn't even win the division and might be gone before the day is over. I don't want to root for the Dodgers but I do appreciate excellence and my reputation is on the line!

The Giants winning it, preferably with Bryant having a big WS, I'm OK with that.

No on the Cards obviously, although their late season push has at least moved them off the "I hate mediocre teams in the playoffs" line. No on Atlanta although I'd be more supportive if Acuna (a great player) was playing.

So I'm down to Dodgers, Giants, Brewers in no particular order; otherwise maybe a player I like will carry their team to victory.

The official Walt Davis "I hate those guys" ordering:

1. Mets (I have a long memory ... a crappy, inaccurate one but it's long)
2. White Sox
3. Yankees
4. Cards (but, alas, respect)
5. Padres (see #1)
6. Marlins (2003 wasn't really their doing so much as our ineptitude so this is more distaste than hate)

Others are variable. Astros under Luhnow, Dodgers in the late LaSorda years, that sort of thing.
   147. The Duke Posted: October 06, 2021 at 08:14 PM (#6044069)
That’s an interesting list. When I was growing up I hated the Yankees but I’ve come to appreciate their more or less sustained success.

As a cards fan I’m supposed to hate the Cubs but I lived in Chicago for years and have probably seen more games at Wrigley than Busch. Love the rivalry, though

I think my list would be:

1. Red Sox (incredibly obnoxious fans )
2. Astros (never liked them before the cheating )
3. Phillies (Larry Bowa is mostly responsible )
4. Royals (if we had replay in 1985……)
5. Brewers (I think they cheat with that roof and in other ways, just can’t prove it )
   148. phredbird Posted: October 06, 2021 at 08:15 PM (#6044070)

joe west calling balls and strikes.

i know he has a good rep for calling the game itself, but ... ugh.
   149. sunday silence (again) Posted: October 06, 2021 at 08:15 PM (#6044071)
If you think DRS is accurate then there'd be no reason to play Bellinger over Taylor. Taylor probably produces 30 runs more than B. if they played an entire season and DRS doesnt see much def. difference. But Statcast and the Runners Held stat would suggest Bellinger might be about 12 runs a year better, so he's not as good as Taylor overall but you get a little more def. with Bellinger.
   150. cardsfanboy Posted: October 06, 2021 at 08:16 PM (#6044072)
Does MLB.TV work in Canada for this game?
   151. Hombre Brotani Posted: October 06, 2021 at 08:18 PM (#6044073)
Mookie is very good.
   152. phredbird Posted: October 06, 2021 at 08:20 PM (#6044074)

Score!

Edman hustles a run.
   153. sunday silence (again) Posted: October 06, 2021 at 08:21 PM (#6044075)
[x] Discretionary fly ball. Pollock/Bellinger
   154. sunday silence (again) Posted: October 06, 2021 at 08:22 PM (#6044076)
this has the makings of a disaster for LAD
   155. salvomania Posted: October 06, 2021 at 08:24 PM (#6044077)
Dink single, stolen base, advance to 3rd on a foul fly out, score on a wild pitch.

Now that is manufacturing a run.

Go Birds!
   156. sunday silence (again) Posted: October 06, 2021 at 08:27 PM (#6044078)
what was strange about yesterday's game was BOS recorded only one assist on a batted ball the entire game. (The other two on the Judge kill at home)
   157. The Duke Posted: October 06, 2021 at 08:31 PM (#6044079)
Goldschmidt missed two chances to advance on fly balls - should be 2-0
   158. phredbird Posted: October 06, 2021 at 08:34 PM (#6044080)

oof. waino pulls one out of his hat, so to speak.
   159. The Duke Posted: October 06, 2021 at 08:36 PM (#6044081)
Hitting Waino hard, hard, hard.
   160. phredbird Posted: October 06, 2021 at 08:38 PM (#6044082)

so far, west is calling a tight strike zone it seems.

goldschmidt took a ball that almost caught the outside of the zone, and just now shcerzer threw a pitch to sosa inside that looked pretty close too.
   161. Moses Taylor hashes out the rumpus Posted: October 06, 2021 at 08:38 PM (#6044083)

2. White Sox

4. Cards (but, alas, respect)


White Sox over Cards? Who gives a #### about the white Sox, much less enough of a #### to dislike them. Now, TLR and Hawk are worth the hate, but not over the Cards.
   162. The Honorable Ardo Posted: October 06, 2021 at 08:40 PM (#6044084)
NICE show-and-go by Wainwright. Sending a message to the Dodgers: "We're winning, come and get us."
   163. The Honorable Ardo Posted: October 06, 2021 at 08:42 PM (#6044086)
Scherzer is missing his spots, reminiscent of Gerrit Cole last night. Roberts needs to get someone warmed up before the Cardinals widen their lead.
   164. Moses Taylor hashes out the rumpus Posted: October 06, 2021 at 08:44 PM (#6044087)
Why does tbs refuse to leave the kzone box up? It's in all the time everywhere else.

Also, Max is gonna have 100 pitches by the 4th inning at this pace.
   165. sunday silence (again) Posted: October 06, 2021 at 08:46 PM (#6044088)
***SABR WARNING***

Scherzer now at 40 pitches.
   166. phredbird Posted: October 06, 2021 at 08:46 PM (#6044089)

scherzer up to 40 pitches already ...

   167. The Duke Posted: October 06, 2021 at 08:47 PM (#6044090)
That was the most exciting sac bunt I’ve ever seen
   168. sunday silence (again) Posted: October 06, 2021 at 08:47 PM (#6044091)
do you steal 3b with two strikes?
   169. sunday silence (again) Posted: October 06, 2021 at 08:54 PM (#6044093)
COst benefit analysis seems strongly suggest he should have tried to steal 3rd w/ two strikes on Sosa.

a double steal there would gain 5% WExp and ending the inn. you only go down by 1% (to 54% visitors)
   170. phredbird Posted: October 06, 2021 at 08:55 PM (#6044094)

wow, edman doing it all over the field.
   171. The Duke Posted: October 06, 2021 at 08:57 PM (#6044095)
Quite a play there
   172. The Honorable Ardo Posted: October 06, 2021 at 08:58 PM (#6044096)
That was incredible just to stop the ball, let alone throw out Smith. Tip of the cap to you, Tommy Edman.
   173. phredbird Posted: October 06, 2021 at 09:04 PM (#6044098)

tyler o'neills arms have been declared national monuments.
   174. sunday silence (again) Posted: October 06, 2021 at 09:12 PM (#6044099)
you could PH for Bellinger
   175. phredbird Posted: October 06, 2021 at 09:17 PM (#6044100)

that strike zone is really small ...

   176. phredbird Posted: October 06, 2021 at 09:18 PM (#6044101)

oh crap ...
   177. Hombre Brotani Posted: October 06, 2021 at 09:19 PM (#6044102)
Sosa should've had that.
   178. phredbird Posted: October 06, 2021 at 09:20 PM (#6044103)

that's 3 clanks off sosa's glove tonight. jeez.
   179. sunday silence (again) Posted: October 06, 2021 at 09:22 PM (#6044105)
get someone up in the pen
   180. cardsfanboy Posted: October 06, 2021 at 09:23 PM (#6044106)
This is not looking pretty right now. You eventually have to throw something in the zone.
   181. sunday silence (again) Posted: October 06, 2021 at 09:24 PM (#6044107)
***SABR ALERT***

Infield in will increase ba/roe by 80 pts
   182. sunday silence (again) Posted: October 06, 2021 at 09:25 PM (#6044108)
is the infield in? HEs hard to DP
   183. cardsfanboy Posted: October 06, 2021 at 09:25 PM (#6044109)
No luck with the proxy server, MLB.tv doesn't seem to work in Canada or Australia for this game.
   184. The Honorable Ardo Posted: October 06, 2021 at 09:25 PM (#6044110)
Seemed like an obvious error on Sosa... and cardsfanboy beat me to the punch. This inning has basically been BB-sac bunt-E6-BB.

Edit: Add 4-3 DP to the mix. Wainwright has balls of steel.
   185. cardsfanboy Posted: October 06, 2021 at 09:26 PM (#6044111)
is the infield in? HEs hard to DP


Are you sure about that?
   186. sunday silence (again) Posted: October 06, 2021 at 09:26 PM (#6044112)
the infield is in, I presume?
   187. sunday silence (again) Posted: October 06, 2021 at 09:27 PM (#6044113)
no you're right CFB he is more likely to double up.
   188. cardsfanboy Posted: October 06, 2021 at 09:27 PM (#6044114)
Turner has hit into 18 dps this year, that is not a profile of a guy who is hard to double up. (19 if you count his most recent one)
   189. phredbird Posted: October 06, 2021 at 09:28 PM (#6044115)

wowza! DP to get out of it.

edman starts it!
   190. cardsfanboy Posted: October 06, 2021 at 09:29 PM (#6044116)
edman starts it!


How many times has Edman's name been mentioned in this game, outside of Waino and maybe Yadier, he has to be lapping the field of mentions among Cardinals today.
   191. JustDan Posted: October 06, 2021 at 09:29 PM (#6044117)
Trea seems to break his bat much more than anyone else I have seen.
   192. The Duke Posted: October 06, 2021 at 09:29 PM (#6044118)
Hit it to edman - great play
Hit it to Sosa - clank
   193. cardsfanboy Posted: October 06, 2021 at 09:31 PM (#6044120)
My fantasy thought of Shildt finally figuring things out and not batting Yadier higher in the lineup than Bader, was dashed with the lineup announcement today.
   194. sunday silence (again) Posted: October 06, 2021 at 09:31 PM (#6044121)
YEah thats weird he's an 80% base stealer for many years and he's still in his prime, but he hit GIDP 25% that is more than double the average. Huh.
   195. cardsfanboy Posted: October 06, 2021 at 09:33 PM (#6044122)
YEah thats weird he's an 80% base stealer for many years and he's still in his prime, but he hit GIDP 25% that is more than double the average. Huh.


Double plays are often about hitting the ball hard and on the ground, and he matches that profile.
   196. sunday silence (again) Posted: October 06, 2021 at 09:38 PM (#6044123)
is there a downside to runnign here?
   197. sunday silence (again) Posted: October 06, 2021 at 09:39 PM (#6044124)

Double plays are often about hitting the ball hard and on the ground, and he matches that profile.


Roberto CLemente says "hello."

But Turners SB ratio made me think he has really great speed but....
   198. cardsfanboy Posted: October 06, 2021 at 09:40 PM (#6044125)
Cardinal radio announcers point out another stupid reason why batting Bader 8th... his steal rate has gone down because you do not want to make the third out with the pitcher batting forcing him to leadoff the next inning.
   199. sunday silence (again) Posted: October 06, 2021 at 09:41 PM (#6044126)
Dodgers have a lot of speed throughout the lineup. Its a really strong team.
   200. sunday silence (again) Posted: October 06, 2021 at 09:42 PM (#6044127)
ESPN radio guys saying Trea Turner does not hit into DPs..Ha Ha
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