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Baseball Primer Newsblog — The Best News Links from the Baseball Newsstand Friday, January 06, 2012WSJ: Drinking With Mike PiazzaDomaine de la Rombacne Conte…mmm, squeezisito!
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Posted: January 06, 2012 at 03:45 PM | 24 comment(s)
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1. The Long Arm of Rudy Law Posted: January 06, 2012 at 04:56 PM (#4030727)What does this even mean? Is he going to forcibly unite things that probably shouldn't be united? Maybe blend some Nebbiolo with a heavily oaked American chardonnay?
It's a trap.
It also would help they could their captions straight. The quotes for Chateau d'Yquem and Sicilian red wine (why bother, Mike, when you've got Amarone?) have been transposed.
But for all that Eye-talian stuff, it's a coup to see two German wines in the lineup. Even if the snot-nosed Lettie Teague tried to "blame it" on the sommelier. Riesling rules!
So who's the fifth catcher in the crew with Bench, Campanella, Berra, and Mike?
EDIT: PS...Repoz: that's "Vaughn Mon-Romanee" to you...!
Oh, Mike Piazza, don't ever change.
not sure it is 'apeing' at all. I can't remember a time where 'Mr.' 'Mrs.' 'Messrs.' wasn't used by the WSJ at any point in time.
In other words, the disgusting little biscuit that looks like it's got dead flies stuffed inside. Of Sicilian wine.
Irod would be a pretty good guess(assuming that he's focusing only on mlb, as obviously Josh Gibson would be at the top of the list or close to it)
Mike's a Metallica kind of guy. Can't imagine him listening to Belle & Sebastian.
But surely he is aware of the existence of this song. Belle & Sebastian are not that obscure. Someone must have told him at some point.
What does this even mean?
He likes to wear red shirts when he drinks red wine in case he spills?
Campanella
Berra
Carter
Fisk
Munson
Ivan Rodriguez
Mickey Cochran
Piazza
It's catcher not hitter who plays behind the plate!
Believe it or not, there is more to catching than throwing out baserunners. In all other phases of catching, Piazza rated quite highly.
And Piazza never caught a full season in which his team didn't finish in the top five (and most years top 3) in fewest runs allowed. Every time he left a team, their next year they didn't do as well defensively. Piazza catches a great game, gets to every foul ball playable, and has a noodle for an arm.
The primary defensive job of a catcher is to handle his pitching staff, to the point that they pitch good. Piazza was better at that than Irod by a fairly good margin. He loses out on the second skill to Irod, which is arm strength, but ultimately the few runs they lost to his inability to throw out a runner, he made up with his game calling and bat.
Absolutely true. Piazza "threw" just fine, but had a very slow release. But that was the only flaw in his work behind the plate. And base stealing was a much less important aspect of the game during his time, so the idea that he was costing his team some huge number of runs every year is ludicrous.
Campanella
Berra
Carter
Fisk
Munson
Ivan Rodriguez
Mickey Cochran
Piazza
Dude, putting Munson ahead of Rodriguez, Cochrane, and Piazza (not to mention Dickey, Hartnett, Simmons, etc) killed all the credibility of your post.
Personally, I'd place Piazza third behind Bench and Berra. As detailed in a few previous posts, Piazza's overall defense didn't seem to hurt his teams nearly as much as his detractors would like you to believe. I could certainly understand an argument for ranking him behind both Pudge's and Carter, but Munson is just silly.
"So who's the fifth catcher in the crew with Bench, Campanella, Berra, and Mike"?
I'm not sure he was necessarily saying he was 5th all time. I think it was more of, off the top of my head I'm in he top 5, which he is.
How low can you rate the best hitting catcher of all time?
Yeah, cos Riesling is fkkking awesome. Its a shame that some people think that Reisling means plonk.
Hall of Merit
http://www.baseballthinkfactory.org/files/hall_of_merit/discussion/election_results_hom_voters_think_gibson_bench_berra_and_carter_are_the_fin/
no line break where the voting is very close
Gibson
Bench
Berra
Carter
Fisk
Dickey
Hartnett
Cochrane
BEwing
Campanella
DWhite
Santop
Simmons
Torre
Bennett
McVey
Freehan
Bresnahan
Trouppe
Mackey
.............
top non-electee in 2012 is Munson, who placed 51stT - he was picked as one of the 15 players listed on three of 37 ballots.
whither Piazza? probably 3rd or 4th, I'd imagine.
of course, when I-Rod retires in another 5 or 10 years, he'll be in the conversation in the top 10 easily.
(fyi, that's Torre with credit apportioned per season based on where he played, but NO managerial credit)
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