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Tuesday, October 15, 2019

Yankees, Astros plan all relievers in ALCS Game 4 vs. Astros

NEW YORK (AP) — The Yankees and Astros plan all-bullpen games from the start in Game 4 of the AL Championship Series in a sign of the times.

With the best-of-seven series tied 1-1, New York’s Luis Severino starts Game 3 on Tuesday against Gerrit Cole. Masahiro Tanaka began the opener for the Yankees and James Paxton was on the mound for Game 2.

Neither team had a starting pitcher it wanted to use for Game 4 on Wednesday.

“J.A. Happ could very much be in the mix, as well as I picture our bullpen being unleashed on that day,” New York manager Aaron Boone said Monday as the series shifted to Yankee Stadium.

For those of you who can’t get enough of the parade of anonymous relievers that makes up so much of contemporary baseball…..

 

QLE Posted: October 15, 2019 at 12:42 AM | 18 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
  Tags: alcs, bullpenning

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   1. The Yankee Clapper Posted: October 15, 2019 at 02:24 AM (#5890607)
Good chance Game 4 is rained out, which would allow Tanaka & Greinke to start on normal rest the following day. Other reports indicate MLB is considering moving Wednesday’s Cardinals @ Nationals to the night game time slot, to not lose a prime time audience, but that series could end Tuesday if Washington wins.
   2. winnipegwhip Posted: October 15, 2019 at 02:35 AM (#5890609)
I will pitch for both teams you pussies.

A real pitcher
   3. Fancy Pants Handle struck out swinging Posted: October 15, 2019 at 07:02 AM (#5890614)
The Astros plan on using relievers against themselves?
   4. JJ1986 Posted: October 15, 2019 at 08:04 AM (#5890616)
This is somehow the real headline.
   5. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: October 15, 2019 at 09:02 AM (#5890622)
If ever a situation called for short rest, the Yankees' does. Tanaka threw 68 pitches, Paxton <3 IP, and Severino is going 4-5 max.
   6. Stevis Posted: October 15, 2019 at 09:19 AM (#5890628)
The call in DC is for soaking rain all day Wednesday as well. Shifting game times around wouldn't help.
   7. Ben Broussard Ramjet Posted: October 15, 2019 at 09:53 AM (#5890640)
If ever a situation called for short rest, the Yankees' does. Tanaka threw 68 pitches, Paxton <3 IP, and Severino is going 4-5 max.


My assumption when they pulled Tanaka as early as they did was because of exactly this situation. Start him on short rest, accept that he may only give you 4-5 innings in game 4 and 4-5 in game 7, but that seems better than the alternative.
   8. winnipegwhip Posted: October 15, 2019 at 10:16 AM (#5890646)
Aaron Boone is the greatest boss in the world. I wished I worked for him.

Aaron sticks his head in my classroom at 9:15 AM.

You have done a great job getting the kids settled. Let's stop right there. I got a substitute in the hallway to finish up Wilson and the League of Nations. Take the rest of the day off. I got 6 more substitutes to get us through today. I planned to get you out of here by 9 on the button. I may have stretched it. You did have the kids engaged and interested but our analytics show kids need a new face talking to them every half hour. Since I kept you there to 9:15 do not worry about coming back until next Monday.
   9. Lassus Posted: October 15, 2019 at 10:36 AM (#5890652)
That's a Primey right there.
   10. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: October 15, 2019 at 10:36 AM (#5890653)
I was listening to Effectively Wild on the way to work this morning, and it struck me how much I hate that about 75 percent of the discussion of playoff baseball is about relief pitchers. I think we're well on the way to where there will be very few pitchers across MLB who throw enough innings, consistently well enough, to be recognizable. We won't talk about pitchers per se, but each team's generic "pitching staff," much like (from what I hear) you just take a team's entire defense for the week in fantasy football.

That's a bad thing.
   11. filihok Posted: October 15, 2019 at 10:44 AM (#5890655)
The Astros plan on using relievers against themselves?

A throwback to old timey baseball to balance out the bullpenning that certain people despise so much - the Astros get to tell the Yankees which pitchers to use against them.
   12. bunyon Posted: October 15, 2019 at 10:51 AM (#5890657)
Is there any evidence that a short outing facilitates coming back on short rest? I get the logic but short-rest starts are much worse than average. I'm not sure a shorter than normal outing has much effect on that.
   13. GeoffB Posted: October 15, 2019 at 11:06 AM (#5890668)
IF the Yankees somehow win this afternoon/evening against Cole, and tomorrow's game is rained out as expected, I think they should still pitch their bullpen game on Thursday. Having Tanaka pitch game 4 on Thursday means Paxton starts on 4 days rest on Friday AND Severino pitches on 3 days rest on Saturday AND your game 7 starter is what exactly? (Tanaka on 2 days rest?)
   14. Khrushin it bro Posted: October 15, 2019 at 01:15 PM (#5890709)
Should be interesting to see so many guys get their first AB's of the season, could get interesting in the field with all those pitchers too.
   15. Ithaca2323 Posted: October 15, 2019 at 01:26 PM (#5890711)
I was listening to Effectively Wild on the way to work this morning, and it struck me how much I hate that about 75 percent of the discussion of playoff baseball is about relief pitchers. I think we're well on the way to where there will be very few pitchers across MLB who throw enough innings, consistently well enough, to be recognizable. We won't talk about pitchers per se, but each team's generic "pitching staff," much like (from what I hear) you just take a team's entire defense for the week in fantasy football.


Agreed completely.
   16. Sunday silence Posted: October 15, 2019 at 03:52 PM (#5890748)

Is there any evidence that a short outing facilitates coming back on short rest? I get the logic but short-rest starts are much worse than average. I'm not sure a shorter than normal outing has much effect on that.
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I think this a very good pt. because it questions the very premise. It might seem intuitive that shorter outing = shorter rest, but really??

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Also would this be the first time in history that both teams have done a bull pen game? Or did hughie Jennings or Casey stengel or someone do this a long time ago?
   17. Greg Pope Posted: October 15, 2019 at 04:11 PM (#5890755)
I think this a very good pt. because it questions the very premise. It might seem intuitive that shorter outing = shorter rest, but really??

I agree. How much does the day's preparation, bullpen pitches, warm up pitches, etc. take out of the pitcher? Also, what is the recovery routine that the pitcher uses? Can that be shortened by a day just because he threw 50 fewer pitches?

Not that I expect us to know these answers, but they could all contribute to a rejection of the premise.
   18. Jack Sommers Posted: October 15, 2019 at 06:02 PM (#5890787)
With a little luck and the right Championship series results, we could see these matchups:

Verlander vs Scherzer

Cole vs. Strasburg

Greinke vs. Corbin


That ought to reduce some of the hand wringing over relief use for a little while anyway.

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