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Monday, August 15, 2022

Yankees in desperate need of jolt as feeble slide continues to grow concern

Anyway, if the Yankees don’t snap out of it, instead of making history, they may be history. They are 20-25 in their last 45, inconceivable the way they started.

At this point, it may be time for a shake-up, at least a small one. Teams that are 29 games over .500 normally don’t require change, but this one might.

How about a call to the minors? At this point, what could it hurt?

Oswald Peraza, who was held out of just about every trade talk at the deadline (except if the Yankees actually had a chance for Juan Soto or Shohei Ohtani, of course; they did not). It feels like they could use a spark. Perhaps he’d provide it.

Josh Donaldson and Gleyber Torres aren’t exactly tearing the cover off the ball. Is anyone else tiring of watching Donaldson failing to catch up to fastballs? Or Torres reverting to his old pull-happy ways? It just might be time to try something new. And Peraza is killing it lately at Triple-A Scranton/Wilkes-Barre.

“We talk about things all the time,” Boone said without tipping their hand, one way or another. “We’re always talking.”

RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: August 15, 2022 at 10:18 AM | 18 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. cHiEf iMpaCt oFfiCEr JE Posted: August 15, 2022 at 11:57 AM (#6091708)
The area where the Yankees have suffered the most since the ASB has been starting pitching (3.20 ERA vs. 4.76 ERA), yet it's the one concern Heyman ignores in his article. ┐(ツ)┌
   2. Howie Menckel Posted: August 15, 2022 at 01:28 PM (#6091720)
funny headline up there, as the NY Post version today was FEEBLE EMPIRE
   3. Walt Davis Posted: August 15, 2022 at 03:17 PM (#6091733)
Man, not even a full-on headfirst slide but a feeble slide!

(except if the Yankees actually had a chance for Juan Soto or Shohei Ohtani, of course; they did not)

So I'm to believe that a package headed by some combo of Volpe (#7 at mlb.com), Dominguez (36), Peraza (35), Austin Wells (66) wasn't gonna get it done? Or was that tongue in cheek?
   4. TVerik - Dr. Velocity Posted: August 16, 2022 at 12:48 AM (#6091829)
Rizzo was just called back to the plate after being hit by a pitch for not getting out of the way. Only in this stretch of the season would this have happened.

I think they were setting up the rotation for the playoffs and trying not to get hurt in mid-July, so took the foot off the gas. And they can't turn it on again. It's the "Prevent Defense" of MLB, and it never works.
   5. TVerik - Dr. Velocity Posted: August 16, 2022 at 01:20 AM (#6091831)
Counterfactual: If another AL East team had gotten off to a stupendous start and there was any race at all as of the ASB, the Yankees would be playing better right now.
   6. The Yankee Clapper Posted: August 16, 2022 at 01:27 AM (#6091832)
A 10-game AL East lead cures most anxieties.
   7. TVerik - Dr. Velocity Posted: August 16, 2022 at 02:25 AM (#6091835)
Interestingly, no one told Aaron Judge, "Just play at 90%. Mission accomplished already for the 2022 regular season!" like they clearly did with Gleyber and Hicks.
   8. villageidiom Posted: August 16, 2022 at 11:41 AM (#6091875)
They are 20-25 in their last 45, inconceivable the way they started.
Two things here are true. First, the Yankees' talent level is far better than how they're playing right now. I mean, we all know this. They are a very good team. Sure they have some weak spots - no team has ever *not* had weak spots - but any real appraisal of this team is that they are very, very good.

Second, if their current slump is inconceivable given the way they started, perhaps the inconceivable thing is not a very, very good team having an extended slump, but rather the way they started. Since we're looking at the recent 45-game sample, let's look back at another 45-game sample from earlier this year. In the 45 games starting April 22 the Yankees went 35-10. If that's cherry picking so be it; use 45 games starting April 23. Or the 24th. Or 25th, 26th, 27th, 28th, or 29th, because either ends of that 45-game stretch were amidst a winning streak, so it's going to be 35-10 regardless. 35 of 45 games is a 126-win pace on a 162-game season. OF COURSE they were not going to play at that level all year, and OF COURSE they are not that good. They are merely a very, very good team, and such teams occasionally have rough stretches.

As an example, the 1978 Boston Red Sox had a stretch early in their season where they went 33-12. And they went on to win 99 games! They were a very, very good team. I mean, in the 2nd half that Red Sox team ended up having injuries at nearly every position except their MVP-caliber HR-hitting outfielder. It's not like the 2022 Yankees are going through that. They'll be fine.
   9. Captain Joe Bivens, Pointless and Wonderful Posted: August 16, 2022 at 11:58 AM (#6091876)
They'll be fine.


I mean really. THE POOR YANKEES! The Red Sox will likely come in last place. Again. They came in last a lot last decade, and so what? Most of the attention is on the '13 and '18 teams.

If the Yankees don't win this year it won't be because they stunk in July and August. Plenty of time to get back to winning.
   10. JL72 Posted: August 16, 2022 at 12:20 PM (#6091879)
As a kid, I greatly enjoyed the 1984 Detroit Tigers starting the season 35-5. I was equally upset that they did not keep up this pace.

It turned out ok.
   11. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: August 16, 2022 at 02:20 PM (#6091894)
As an example, the 1978 Boston Red Sox had a stretch early in their season where they went 33-12. And they went on to win 99 games! They were a very, very good team. I mean, in the 2nd half that Red Sox team ended up having injuries at nearly every position except their MVP-caliber HR-hitting outfielder. It's not like the 2022 Yankees are going through that. They'll be fine.

I'd feel a lot more confident of that if I knew that the rotation and the bullpen was going into the playoffs at a reasonable approximation of full strength.
   12. BDC Posted: August 16, 2022 at 02:40 PM (#6091898)
When was the last time a baseball fan felt confident about their team's pitching staff, going into the playoffs? I'm thinking probably the 1903 Pirates. "Hey, we've got Deacon Phillippe and Sam Leever, I can't see how we're going to lose this thing!" :)
   13. Ron J Posted: August 16, 2022 at 02:53 PM (#6091900)
#12 The 1966 Dodgers knew the series was a lock. To be fair, they'd have been far more confident if Koufax had been available game one, but for some reason they started him in game 162 despite having clinched.
   14. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: August 16, 2022 at 04:13 PM (#6091905)
#12 The 1966 Dodgers knew the series was a lock. To be fair, they'd have been far more confident if Koufax had been available game one, but for some reason they started him in game 162 despite having clinched.

That's not true, and the BB-Reference page is misleading, as it shows the Dodgers' final 1.5 margin as being after both games, rather than just after the second game.

After the Dodgers lost the first game of a doubleheader to the Phillies, and the Giants won an 11 inning game in Pittsburgh, the Giants stood at 93-68 and the Dodgers at 94-67, or 1 game ahead. If the Dodgers had lost the second game, the Giants could've tied them by winning a makeup game of an August 10th rainout in Cincinnati. But since the Dodgers won that second game, their 1.5 game lead made that makeup game pointless.

That was the reason that Koufax pitched game 2, and it was a very good reason. Alston wouldn't have been that stupid to waste a start by Koufax if it hadn't been absolutely necessary.
   15. Ron J Posted: August 16, 2022 at 04:53 PM (#6091911)
#14 I did check. Just a brain lock on my part. I thought they'd won game 1 and clinched.
   16. Starring Bradley Scotchman as RMc Posted: August 16, 2022 at 08:12 PM (#6091942)
As a kid, I greatly enjoyed the 1984 Detroit Tigers starting the season 35-5. I was equally upset that they did not keep up this pace.

The '84 Tigers had nearly the best record in baseball after the 35-5 start: 69-53. (Only the Yankees [by half a game] and the two NL winners, the Padres and the Cubs [by two games] were better. I blame the '84 Mariners!)
   17. TomH Posted: August 16, 2022 at 09:23 PM (#6091947)
(small epoch of time ago) THEY ARE DA BEST TEAM EVAH!
(at the moment) OH NOOOS
(by early Oct) expecting to get to at least the ALCS, hopefully the WS, maybe a parade. A fine team whose pitching was super good for the first few months.
   18. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: August 24, 2022 at 11:18 AM (#6092991)
Seven of those early season pitchers are currently on the IL, and another one was traded for an OF who's also on the IL. And two of their most productive hitters have also been on the IL. They were incredibly luckily earlier and the law of averages is catching up with them, and how they fare in October is going to depend on how complete their roster is.

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