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Yankees’ status quo under Brian Cashman resulted in ‘disaster’ season, and a fresh perspective is needed

Numerous missteps have led the Yankees to where they are today and GM Brian Cashman, who has been at the helm since 1998, is under more heat now than at any other point in his tenure. We know this because, on July 9, the Yankees fired hitting coach Dillon Lawson. It was the first time they fired a coach during the season since 1995. It was a clear act of desperation.

“It has been well documented that I have been reluctant in the past to make changes to our coaching staff in the middle of a season,” Cashman said in a statement after Lawson was let go. “I am a big believer that successes and failures are collective efforts. However, I ultimately felt that a change was needed and that a new voice overseeing our hitting operations would give us the best chance to perform closer to our capabilities as we move forward into the second half of our season.”

At the end of the day, this is Cashman’s roster and Cashman’s coaching staff, and the mistakes over the last 26 months or so have piled up and meaningfully subtract from New York’s World Series chances. Consider:

The Joey Gallo and Frankie Montas trades were complete busts. At best zero impact, more realistically negative impact.
Josh Donaldson (in decline) and Isiah Kiner-Falefa (not an everyday shortstop) were misevaluated, and that’s putting it kindly.
The Jordan Montgomery for Harrison Bader trade is another loss, and Bader was dumped on waivers this year after not being traded.
Carlos Rodón’s first season in pinstripes has featured a 5.90 ERA in 12 starts around multiple injuries.

We should also include the failure address left field last offseason. The left field hole is going on three years now and it was a clear need last winter, yet the position went unaddressed. There have been wins along the way—in separate trades the Yankees stole relievers Clay Holmes and Wandy Peralta, and catcher Jose Trevino—but the bad outweighs the good, and it’s not close either.

 

RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: September 21, 2023 at 11:21 AM | 11 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. filihok Posted: September 21, 2023 at 07:19 PM (#6141991)
First thought: is this a post from r/Yankees or some Yankee fan's blog?

Second thought: I'll click and find out

Third thought: basically, yes.
   2. Pat Rapper's Delight (as quoted on MLB Network) Posted: September 21, 2023 at 07:25 PM (#6141992)
Numerous missteps have led the Yankees to where they are today

Narrator: The Yankees' record is 76-76.
   3. Darren Posted: September 22, 2023 at 10:52 AM (#6142021)
Seems like Cashman deserves more than one consecutive missed playoffs before losing benefit of the doubt. But fans have blamed him for years for not getting them another ring.
   4. McCoy Posted: September 22, 2023 at 11:17 AM (#6142024)
I'm sure some Mets front office people will be available soon.
   5. ReggieThomasLives Posted: September 22, 2023 at 06:25 PM (#6142058)
The Joey Gallo trade?

Was he supposed to be the missing piece?
   6. The Duke Posted: September 23, 2023 at 04:11 PM (#6142090)
There's just way more competitive teams absorbing more good players a payroll than there ever used to be. The Padres, the Rangers and the Braves are spending a lot. It's likely we'll see the orioles, dbacks, nationals and marlins spending more soon. So you can't simply rely on outspending at the MLB level. The next horizon is stocking AAA teams with expensive, good players. Re-igniting foreign spending. More spending on coaching and training.

The cardinals are learning first hand that "just trying to make the playoffs" is increasingly difficult without a major spending commit.

The Dodgers have adapted. Will the Yanks and Red Sox?
   7. TVerik - Dr. Velocity Posted: September 24, 2023 at 02:59 AM (#6142143)
Seems like Cashman deserves more than one consecutive missed playoffs before losing benefit of the doubt. But fans have blamed him for years for not getting them another ring.


I feel like there are venerable American emotions that are kinda built-in:

Everyone hates their boss.
Everyone hates the tax authority.
Everyone hates the local cable company.
Every sports fan hates the team's current administration.
Every political partisan thinks that people on the other side are brilliant, corrupt tacticians.

All of these are genuine, but over the last few years I've sort of discounted these. If a Yankee fan advocates for an Aaron Boone firing, I think of it coming from a deeper-than-rational place. A place not subject to arguments. And more importantly, that this fan might see a dislike of his team's management as inexorably intertwined with being a fan.


   8. John Northey Posted: September 25, 2023 at 11:56 AM (#6142199)
As a Jays fan I'm hoping this ends up like the old Steinbrenner blowups - leading to a decade of no playoffs at all for the Yankees, bottoming out in a 1st overall pick that they blow. See 1982-1993 - a dozen years where the Yankees only finished within 5 games of a playoff slot twice. Add 5 more years without winning it all in there.

Of course, from 1995-2022 they missed the playoffs a total of 4 times, the same number of times the Blue Jays made the playoffs for a comparison point. The AL East has been a beast. This will be a rarity - neither Boston or NYY in the playoffs, since 1995 - only happened in 2014 during that stretch.

I'm hoping the Yankees start looking for 'leadership' and 'ability to drive in runs' instead of repeatable measurable skills now. That'd be a good way to keep them out of the playoffs.
   9. DL from MN Posted: September 25, 2023 at 12:56 PM (#6142203)

I feel like there are venerable American emotions that are kinda built-in:

Everyone hates their boss.
Everyone hates the tax authority.
Everyone hates the local cable company.
Every sports fan hates the team's current administration.
Every political partisan thinks that people on the other side are brilliant, corrupt tacticians.


Everyone who isn't a fan of the Yankees hates the Yankees more than any other team.

I don't think I believe my least favorite political party is brilliant (more like the opposite) but I do think they're corrupt.
   10. McCoy Posted: September 25, 2023 at 02:36 PM (#6142215)
Probably the only fanbase for an NL team that cares about the Yankees are the Mets fans.
   11. Tony S Posted: September 25, 2023 at 05:07 PM (#6142222)
It will be interesting if the Yankees become what the Mets have been most of their history -- a sometimes good, sometimes mediocre, sometimes bad team, subject to the same ups and downs usually experienced by a typical NL franchise. You look at the year-by-year performance of the Mets, and you'd never guess they play in baseball's biggest market.

The Yankees DO parlay their massive revenue advantages into consistently superior on-field performance. The Mets don't.

If the Yankees do sack Cashman, I guess we'll find out if he was the key ingredient after all.

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