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Yo mama so fat, she could host LABOR DAY WEEKEND OMNICHATTER!, for September 3-6, 2021

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   1. Hombre Brotani Posted: September 03, 2021 at 02:42 PM (#6038136)
HOW WILL THE ANGELS LOSE TODAY?!
   2. Edmundo got dem ol' Kozma blues again mama Posted: September 03, 2021 at 03:37 PM (#6038143)
How will the Phillies score 7 or more runs for the eighth straight game, especially with Freddie Galvis leading off?
   3. cardsfanboy Posted: September 03, 2021 at 07:00 PM (#6038171)
Awards for the month of August came out I guess yesterday. Waino won NL pitcher of the month, which is pretty cool. (some other people won the other awards, but they aren't Cardinals... so who cares. :) )

   4. Howie Menckel Posted: September 03, 2021 at 07:54 PM (#6038176)
ex-Cardinal Lane Thomas, now a Nat, sprints to second base, and just beyond, off an apparent double into the gap by a teammate - but Nimmo covers a ton of ground quickly to make a nice catch.

Little Leaguers at home are then going, "Hey, Dad, doesn't he have to tag second base again as he runs back to first base? we learned that last year."

yes, Timmy, yes he does - which is why this became a weird double play.....

to be fair, Thomas in his STL career mostly just made outs iirc
   5. cardsfanboy Posted: September 03, 2021 at 08:43 PM (#6038180)
gameday has been stuck at 'in play run' for about two minutes. Somehow Edman is at second and there is a runner at third, so I'm thinking that the score is now 4-0.
   6. cardsfanboy Posted: September 03, 2021 at 09:11 PM (#6038183)
8-0 Cardinals, at least it looks like this game the Cardinals have a good chance of winning this game.
   7. cardsfanboy Posted: September 03, 2021 at 09:25 PM (#6038191)
Not to judge a team that is easily walking away with the division, but they have a first baseman who just attempted to bunt and is batting 7th....That is not usually the lineup spot for a first baseman. (mind you, the Cardinals idiot manager still has the Cardinals 4th best hitter batting 8th)
   8. cardsfanboy Posted: September 03, 2021 at 09:26 PM (#6038192)
you are losing 8-0 in the third inning and you are sacrificing... yes I get that it's a pitcher batting, but seriously? Are the Brewers winning in spite of their manager?
   9. Howie Menckel Posted: September 03, 2021 at 09:30 PM (#6038193)
Mets relic Rich Hill with 6 scoreless tonight, tossing southpaw slop at 69 to 71 mph.

even the unbefuddleable Juan Soto went an inept 0 for 3.

power move by Mets would be to wear 19th-century unis whenever he pitches, to accentuate the anachronistic vibes.

Greg Maddux, Hill's 55-year-old ex-Cubs teammate, has to be watching and pumping his first (to the extent that his arthritis allows, anyway)....
   10. the Hugh Jorgan returns Posted: September 03, 2021 at 09:32 PM (#6038195)
Renfroe with a 9 pitch at bat finally gets a slider that doesn't do as much as the others and sends it over the monster and puts the Sox up 8-3. Was looking dicey there as Cleveland had tied it 3-3 in the seventh, but Sox put up 5 so far in the bottom half to take the commanding lead.
Hunter continues to be a bargain, thank you Bloom for signing this guy.
   11. the Hugh Jorgan returns Posted: September 03, 2021 at 09:36 PM (#6038196)
I know many Sox fans think they lost the Rizzo stakes, but Schwahbah with the OPS over 1.000 is looking like the smarter pick up.
   12. Dillon Gee Escape Plan Posted: September 03, 2021 at 09:40 PM (#6038198)
I know many Sox fans think they lost the Rizzo stakes, but Schwahbah with the OPS over 1.000 is looking like the smarter pick up.

Dalbec's also hitting .313/.394/.687 over his last 30 games as well, though his defense has been a bit frustrating.
   13. cardsfanboy Posted: September 03, 2021 at 09:41 PM (#6038199)
Mets relic Rich Hill with 6 scoreless tonight, tossing southpaw slop at 69 to 71 mph.


Three people in the NL older than Yadier.... Wainwright, Hill, Pujols. Good company to be honest... although almost always the oldest player in the league is a legend or a guy defying age.
   14. O Tempura, O Morays ('Spos) Posted: September 03, 2021 at 09:49 PM (#6038202)
Oakland has quite the bullpen.
   15. cardsfanboy Posted: September 03, 2021 at 09:50 PM (#6038204)
Assuming I looked at it right, Waino has 22 consecutive innings without allowing a run, and has allowed just two runs in his last 34 innings... not bad for an old fart.

   16. cardsfanboy Posted: September 03, 2021 at 09:51 PM (#6038206)
Game day being 2 or so minutes behind the radio broadcast sucks.
   17. the Hugh Jorgan returns Posted: September 03, 2021 at 09:56 PM (#6038207)
Covid Sox now have Devers playing 2B and 2 guys on the left side you thought you'd never see on the diamond whilst the Sox are playing meaningful September baseball.
   18. cardsfanboy Posted: September 03, 2021 at 09:58 PM (#6038208)
nevermind
   19. cardsfanboy Posted: September 03, 2021 at 10:15 PM (#6038209)
Tyler O'Neil with 3 strikeouts.... and an 0-2 count decides to send the ball over the fence to give the Cardinals a 10-0 lead...
   20. cardsfanboy Posted: September 03, 2021 at 10:23 PM (#6038210)
Edmundo Sosa has been showing off the glove lately...
   21. Howie Menckel Posted: September 03, 2021 at 10:28 PM (#6038211)
Mets lead 2-1, 1 out in the 9th, runner on first.
0-2 count to rookie C Adams, Nats running anyway.
lunging Nimmo can't get the sinking liner, relay by Conforto to Baez - who needs about 0.9 seconds to short-hop the throw and toss a 115 mph rocket to the plate.

ok, to the third-base side of the plate. C grabs, tags - and runner arrives at same time and clotheliness hapless organization fodder and ex-Oriole C Sisco. tie ballgame.

Cisco's perhaps dangling extremities, teeth, jewelry, undergarments, whatever are removed for new C.

this was like what looks like a gorgeous throw to the end zone - but on the replay, you see that the WR got set up on a tee for the spike/slam. ouch.

Diaz wriggles out of the jam and we go to extras....
   22. cardsfanboy Posted: September 03, 2021 at 10:32 PM (#6038212)
dangit... Waino couldn't get through 7... bases loaded 1 out, with a bit of bad luck.
   23. The Yankee Clapper Posted: September 03, 2021 at 11:19 PM (#6038216)
Juan Soto homered for the Nationals first run in the 9th (extras didn’t go well for the federal enclave), #24 of the season, and #93 of his career, putting him in an 8th place tie with Giancarlo Stanton on the Age-22 Career HR Leaderboard.
   24. The Duke Posted: September 03, 2021 at 11:22 PM (#6038217)
Dodgers being shut down by someone I haven’t even heard of - that can’t be good
   25. The Duke Posted: September 03, 2021 at 11:24 PM (#6038218)
Arrieta only has given up 3 through 4 innings - has to be considered a good start for him
   26. The Duke Posted: September 03, 2021 at 11:29 PM (#6038219)
Wainwright moves into tie for second on pitcher wins tonight at 14. With some luck could have a 17-18 win season. Not bad for a 40 year old
   27. The Duke Posted: September 03, 2021 at 11:38 PM (#6038220)
Cards bring in some guy who hasn’t played in MLB for 10!years and he is getting torched. If any pitching staff can lose a 15-2 game in ninth it would be us
   28. Howie Menckel Posted: September 03, 2021 at 11:38 PM (#6038221)
NL LEAST STANDINGS

ATL 71-63 ---
PHI 69-65 2
NY.. 67-67 4

YOU GOTTA BOO-LIEVE! (TM)

I just checked the Doomsday/Self-Immolation Clock on the Bulletin of the Atomic Mets Fan site, and it is at its lowest in several weeks.

yet another twinbill on Saturday, vs reeling Nats. ATL has two more at the Rockies, whose 44-23 home mark compares nicely to SF home 43-22 (pending tonight) and LA home 46-23.
   29. The Duke Posted: September 03, 2021 at 11:44 PM (#6038222)
Waino and Yadi bag start number 300. Waino gets an RBI and the win. Yadi hits a grand slam. That’s just showing off
   30. The Yankee Clapper Posted: September 03, 2021 at 11:45 PM (#6038223)
yet another twinbill on Saturday, vs reeling Nats
I’ll be there.
   31. The Duke Posted: September 03, 2021 at 11:53 PM (#6038225)
Mets have a better shot at division don’t they? They have a crap load of teams to fight off for WC. Seems an easier path to win division. The problem with the WC is that every night at least two teams in front of you win - it’s hard to make up ground
   32. The Duke Posted: September 04, 2021 at 12:04 AM (#6038226)
Replay fails again in SF. Booth overturns a call where the evidence is unclear.
   33. Howie Menckel Posted: September 04, 2021 at 12:22 AM (#6038228)
yes re WC and NYM (and PHI)

ignoring LA/SF, the other wild card goes to one of:

SDP 71-63 --- *
CIN 72-64 ---
STL 69-64 1.5
PHI 69-65 2
NY.. 67-67 4

* - (and 3-3 in 7th vs HOU tonight)
   34. Doug Jones threw harder than me Posted: September 04, 2021 at 12:46 AM (#6038229)
Oakland has quite the bullpen


Actually it feels like Oakland's bullpen has been decent recently (August ERA 3.06), EXCEPT for Trivino, who has gone from lights-out to awful. In a game with a 6-run lead, this was supposed to be that nice little inning where he could regain his confidence - NOPE! So an overused, ancient Romo has to come in, and he ran out of magic tonight. The big problem with the A's has been their starters, with Basset injured they are trying to cover with the likes of Paul Blackburn and Cole Irvin, so their August starter ERA was 4.53. The bullpen (like the Giants) has been trying to make up the difference.

Feels like the A's are following the Padres into the abyss. I was hoping Khris Davis would provide a spark - and he did yesterday, and of course with 8 runs today they should have been in good shape - but when it rains it pours.
   35. Walt Davis Posted: September 04, 2021 at 01:05 AM (#6038230)
Dodgers being shut down by someone I haven’t even heard of - that can’t be good

?? DeSclafini was a regular Reds starter for 5 seasons, how could a Cards fan have never heard of him (and a pretty unusual name). Having a really good season which he does every other year.

A play I swear I saw all the time when I was a kid but haven't seen (noticed?) for years. Dodgers with runners on 2nd and 3rd, hard grounder to IF who comes home. Turner realizes he's a dead duck so heads back to third. C runs him back and Dodgers have two runners on third. He tags them both. Umpire correctly calls the runner from 2nd out. Both runners leave the bag and Posey alertly ... tags the wrong one and Turner sneaks back in. (In fairness I'm not sure he could have gotten to Turner in time anyway but no point going after the runner who's already out.)

Now I've known who's safe and out in this situation since I was like 10 or something. Corey Seager, Justin Turner, Buster Posey ... that's about 3300 ML games of experience (plus plenty of time on the IL to study the rule book). Making it worse for Posey, it was top 9th with a 1-0 lead and if he gets them both, Giants win. Instead Turner comes home on a single to tie it. Both Turner and Seager should be going to kangaroo court on this one too -- just keep standing there until the ball is dead and the ump tells one of you to get off the field.

EDIT: OK Seager might have known the rule.
   36. Edmundo got dem ol' Kozma blues again mama Posted: September 04, 2021 at 05:26 AM (#6038243)
Phils do not score 7 or more, but it’s not the Edmundo-maligned Freddie Galvis’ fault, as he led off the game with a HR. My apologies to Mr. Galvis.
   37. The Duke Posted: September 04, 2021 at 09:20 AM (#6038250)
Cards have one of those great WC nights where they win and Padres, reds, Phillies and Braves lose. Only team they didn’t gain a game on was the suddenly formidable Mets
   38. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: September 04, 2021 at 10:42 AM (#6038260)
A play I swear I saw all the time when I was a kid but haven't seen (noticed?) for years. Dodgers with runners on 2nd and 3rd, hard grounder to IF who comes home. Turner realizes he's a dead duck so heads back to third. C runs him back and Dodgers have two runners on third. He tags them both. Umpire correctly calls the runner from 2nd out. Both runners leave the bag and Posey alertly ... tags the wrong one and Turner sneaks back in. (In fairness I'm not sure he could have gotten to Turner in time anyway but no point going after the runner who's already out.)

The Dodgers were just channeling their Brooklyn ancestors:

From the Dugout: Three Men on One Base

A few weeks ago, I talked about what may have been the biggest individual base-running blunder of all time, Marvin Throneberry hitting a triple and forgetting to touch first and second. It’s time to talk about a spectacular blunder that was a group effort. I’m talking about the infamous “Three Men on One Base” incident of 1926.

The incident occurred at Brooklyn’s fabled ballyard, Ebbets Field. Soon after it opened in 1913, Ebbets Field became known as the place where the wildest, wackiest, best, worst, and just plain weirdest things in baseball could and would happen.

Pay close attention to the narrative. If you can understand E=mc2 or follow Abbott and Costello’s “Who’s on First?” routine, you might be able to understand what happened here.

The Brooklyn Dodgers were playing the Boston Braves. The bases were loaded when the Dodgers’ Babe Herman came up to bat. Hank DeBerry was on third, Dazzy Vance was on second, and Chick Fewster was on first.

Herman hit a shot to deep center that fell into the gap and looked like it was good for at least a double. DeBerry scored easily. Vance, a pitcher who was a slow runner, rounded third and headed for home.

The third base coach tried to slow up Fewster because it looked like he might pass Vance. However, Vance thought he was being told to go back to third, so he turned around to go back. Seeing Fewster on third, he changed directions again and headed for home. He was caught in a rundown between home and third.

Herman went into second standing up. Seeing the rundown, he thought it was Fewster, as he was sure Vance had already scored. He did what ballplayers do under such circumstances and went to third, only to see Fewster was already there.

Meanwhile, Vance somehow got out of the rundown and dove back into third. When the dust had cleared, the fans stared at the incredible sight of three Dodgers on one base.

The umpires were dumbfounded. They knew two of these idiots were out and the inning was over, but which two?

The umpires decided that Vance was safe as he was the lead runner and therefore entitled to hold third base. Herman later remarked that Vance should have been the one called out because he got the signs wrong.
   39. Howie Menckel Posted: September 04, 2021 at 02:27 PM (#6038287)
entering Saturday:


NL LEAST STANDINGS

ATL 71-63 ---
PHI 69-65 2
NY.. 67-67 4

ignoring LA/SF, the other WILD CARD goes to one of:

CIN 72-64 ---
SDP 71-64 0.5
STL 69-64 1.5
PHI 69-65 2
NY.. 67-67 4

Mets lead 7-0 in the 3rd inning and it does not appear as if they will ever lose again.

meanwhile, I was glad to see the Dodgers win the WS this year.
now, I am over it - so I got a kick out of SS/pretend 2B Trea Turner making the game-losing error in extras on a bad throw that could not be salvaged by C/pretend-1B Will Smith.

LA did a nice job in recent years of proving - in part because there are so few fair balls put into play - that you could move many players all over the field. but they have gotten a bit silly at times, and this one bit them and bit them hard as they fall out of first place.
   40. The Duke Posted: September 04, 2021 at 04:12 PM (#6038308)
Mets lucky it’s a 7 inning game. Pissing away a nine run lead would be awful
   41. Howie Menckel Posted: September 04, 2021 at 04:17 PM (#6038309)
9-9

Stevenson 2-run HR as Nats were down to their final out
3 in 4th, 4 in 6th, 2 in 7th
we go to extras

............

biggest lead have/had ever blown was 8 runs at Wrigley in 1980
this was 9-0, Mets don't score, Nats runner on 2nd no out and Soto up second

#immolationalert
   42. The Duke Posted: September 04, 2021 at 04:41 PM (#6038313)
Wow. Yankees coming back from the dead and Mets one base away deon epic collapse
   43. JJ1986 Posted: September 04, 2021 at 05:13 PM (#6038317)
Yankees lose. Mets win.
   44. Howie Menckel Posted: September 04, 2021 at 05:15 PM (#6038318)
Stevenson was up again w Nats down 2 runs with man on and 2 out, and hits two foul balls that each go about 3-4 feet into the stands. again down to his last strike and..... he flies out.

Mets win 11-9 on 2-run HR by Lindor

boo birds in fine form in the Bronx for hapless Chapman
   45. The Duke Posted: September 04, 2021 at 05:51 PM (#6038323)
Yanks lose and Mets win. What a day - it’s going to be a wild month
   46. Walt Davis Posted: September 04, 2021 at 06:41 PM (#6038326)
Meanwhile Cubs win 7-6 over Pirates in another fine display of lousy baseball teams battling it out. Cubs down 1, 2 men on, 2 outs, bottom 9. Line drive to RF that apparently the Pirates' RF loses a bit in the sun, dives for it, clanks off the middle of his glove. Tie game, 2nd and 3rd. Grounder to deep short that should be hopeless but apparently Schwindel is a rather slow runner. Pirates SS makes a desperate throw that pulls the 1B off the bag. But Schwindel isn't close to being there yet so he does the evasive slide, the 1B does the desperation swipe, safe and ... replay. Without question the throw was in time but you can't really tell if the glove made contact. It probably did but the replay in NY decides the umps can call it a day and don't overturn.
   47. DFA Posted: September 04, 2021 at 08:15 PM (#6038336)
Yeah, Schwindel was certainly out at first...
   48. Snowboy Posted: September 04, 2021 at 08:34 PM (#6038337)
Really? Mets went 10-19 in August. Was it a 9-0 lead they blew today? To Washington, who flew their white flag weeks ago? Stroman, probably their #1 now, allowed 3 runs in 5, did he even come out for the 6th? Latest addition Brad Hand didn't allow an earned run and is credited with a "hold" (huzzah!) but looking more closely he allowed 2-2 inherited runners to score, and gave up hits to 2 of 3 batters faced: he's dust. After Seth Lugo blew the save, they landed on Heath Hembree, and his +6.00 ERA somehow got it done.
I get that they're in a garbage division, so there's always hope they could float to the top, like jetsam. But they still stink.
   49. Howie Menckel Posted: September 04, 2021 at 08:36 PM (#6038338)
now do the Phillies.
and the Braves.
   50. What if I planted tomatoes Posted: September 04, 2021 at 09:39 PM (#6038341)
Houser with the complete game 3 hit shutout. Very cool
   51. cardsfanboy Posted: September 04, 2021 at 09:39 PM (#6038342)
One thing about baseball, no matter the previous game or the next, there are no real guarantees, 15-4 one day, 4-0 with 3 hits the next. It's a youneverknow type of sport.

   52. Hombre Brotani Posted: September 04, 2021 at 10:41 PM (#6038345)
Ohtani on Friday: 7 IP, 2 ER, 8 Ks, 117 pitches.
Ohtani on Saturday: 43rd homer, 3 RBI.
   53. the Hugh Jorgan returns Posted: September 04, 2021 at 11:19 PM (#6038350)
Watching LA/SF as it's Sunday here in Sydney and we are in lockdown and can't go anywhere...a couple of things.

Cody Bellinger is broken. I mean just really broken. He doesn't look like a chance of making contact, never mind actually hitting it hard. It's like a totally different player to the one who won the mvp.

Urias is super fun to watch pitch. Really moves the ball around, has a lovely array of pitches, consistently hits his spots and seems to get a lot of K's from guys who seem to swing right threw strikes right down the middle.
   54. The Yankee Clapper Posted: September 04, 2021 at 11:26 PM (#6038352)
Mets win 11-9 on 2-run HR by Lindor
Nationals take the nightcap, 4-3. 4 BB for Juan Soto today, one intentional. The IBB ties him with Ted Williams for 2nd on the Age-22 Career IBB Leaderboard. The 4 BB give Soto 338 for his career, putting him in range of Williams (350) & Mel Ott (362), who hold the 1st 2 spots on that Age-22 Leaderboard. In 30 games since the Nationals ‘retooled’ at the trade deadline, Soto has been walked 38 times. With 27 games to go, Soto figures to see more of the same given the lack of any lineup protection & frequency of open bases when he bats.
   55. Howie Menckel Posted: September 04, 2021 at 11:27 PM (#6038353)
UPDATED w only SDP to go

NL LEAST STANDINGS

ATL 71-64 ---
PHI 69-66 2
NY.. 68-68 3.5

ignoring LA/SF, the other WILD CARD goes to one of:

CIN 73-64 ---
SDP 71-64 1 (and leads 6-2 in 7th)
STL 69-65 2.5
PHI 69-66 3
NY.. 68-68 4.5
   56. Hombre Brotani Posted: September 04, 2021 at 11:31 PM (#6038354)
Jose Suarez throws a complete game for the Angels. It's their first complete game of the season.
   57. Mike A Posted: September 04, 2021 at 11:42 PM (#6038355)
Braves with their 4th 1-run loss on the trip...not a lot of Pythagorean luck this year. Braves are at +87 while the Mets/Phillies are in negative territory.

Yet the division is still up for grabs, as despite my petitions to Rob Manfred it does not look like they'll award division titles to Pythag leaders - at least this year.

So I guess anything goes the next month. Bravos schedule does ease up after this brutal west coast swing.
   58. The Yankee Clapper Posted: September 05, 2021 at 01:27 PM (#6038371)
A BB and botched throw/catch on a SB gives the Orioles a runner of 3rd, nobody out, to start the game, but the Yankees Corey Kluber strikes out the next 3 batters. If Kluber can stay healthy, he might help significantly down the stretch.
   59. The Yankee Clapper Posted: September 05, 2021 at 02:00 PM (#6038372)
On the 5th consecutive fastball, Gary Sanchez hits a most welcome Grand Slam HR to give the Yankees a 4-1 lead over the Orioles.
   60. What if I planted tomatoes Posted: September 05, 2021 at 03:26 PM (#6038375)
So a clearly foul ground ball is called fair for St Louis. 2 runs score

No word on whether ump though Crew 3rd baseman touched ball. Replay showed he did not And ball bounced in foul ground well before bag.

Plus an out call overturned on same play. So all kinds of fun
   61. What if I planted tomatoes Posted: September 05, 2021 at 03:41 PM (#6038378)
Jackie Bradley Jr needs to think about things when a team intentionally walks Pablo Reyes to pitch to JBJ
   62. The Yankee Clapper Posted: September 05, 2021 at 03:58 PM (#6038380)
Gary Sanchez’s 2nd HR of the game, a 2-run blast, gives the Yankees a 7-4 lead over the troublesome Orioles.
   63. JJ1986 Posted: September 05, 2021 at 04:15 PM (#6038382)
I'm not sure Andrew Heaney is any good.
   64. Howie Menckel Posted: September 05, 2021 at 04:34 PM (#6038384)
Nats' September-long plan to not bring in relievers anymore in mid-inning was sorely tested today.

trail 7-6 vs Mets, top 9:

HOMER 8-6
double
single 9-6
single
walk
HOMER 13-6, Pillar grand slam

starting to think Voth doesn't have it today - and finally Nats bring in some help (though at 13-6, why bother?)
   65. TomH Posted: September 05, 2021 at 04:54 PM (#6038387)
yeah those O's are Very Troublesome!
   66. Howie Menckel Posted: September 05, 2021 at 04:54 PM (#6038388)
UPDATED

NL LEAST STANDINGS thru Sunday

ATL 72-64 --- (if they don't blow a 6-1 lead in 6th)
PHI 70-66 2
NY.. 69-68 3.5
   67. TomH Posted: September 05, 2021 at 04:56 PM (#6038389)
potential spoiler WS team: While the BLUE JAYS have no more games with the Red Sox, they have SEVEN against the YANKEES. Go Jays, take em down!
   68. cardsfanboy Posted: September 05, 2021 at 05:46 PM (#6038392)
So a clearly foul ground ball is called fair for St Louis. 2 runs score


I watched the replay and thought he touched it, then watched it three more times and am certain he didn't touch it. Horrible call.
   69. cardsfanboy Posted: September 05, 2021 at 05:50 PM (#6038394)
by fWar, Edmundo Sosa has more war than Dylan Carlson, yet I doubt that he'll receive a single vote for Roy. And I can understand it, Carlson has been hurt by playing more centerfield than he should have, has twice the pa and is more or less the same offensively.
   70. Walt Davis Posted: September 05, 2021 at 05:50 PM (#6038395)
Heck of a catch in Cubs-Pirates by the Pirates LF -- totally laid out on the warning track. Cub baserunner almost gets doubled off because he thought he'd better stop halfway back to the bag and double-check they were trying to double him off. Fortunately, in a bit of a Pirates theme this series, the 1B dropped the throw.
   71. Walt Davis Posted: September 05, 2021 at 05:53 PM (#6038396)
Always hard to win RoY with substantially less than a full season when there are other legit full-season candidates.
   72. Brian C Posted: September 05, 2021 at 05:58 PM (#6038398)
Always hard to win RoY with substantially less than a full season when there are other legit full-season candidates.

Screw RoY, I'm ready to vote Schwindel for MVP.
   73. cardsfanboy Posted: September 05, 2021 at 06:03 PM (#6038399)
Always hard to win RoY with substantially less than a full season when there are other legit full-season candidates.


Agree, it's why I argued for Taveras over Ryan Howard in the past. Although Howard was clearly the better player going forward. In Sosa's case he has "hidden" tools that help him and wouldn't figure into the voting.

Everyone is pretty confident India is going to win it, but with a month to go, I do think it's pretty close and a hot week or ten days by a few candidates can change that perception. Although it's almost impossible for Carlson to past India in War, he could pass him in perception. I was just 'studying' the Cardinals war by player and was thinking that the team had 1.9+ war from every position but catcher and short, then I realized that Sosa is a "shortstop".
   74. Walt Davis Posted: September 05, 2021 at 06:05 PM (#6038400)
Which brings me to my fading memory of RoY winners. Last year it was Kyle Lewis and Devin Williams. Lewis missed the first two weeks, performed solidly for 6 weeks, got hurt and has missed the rest of the season so far. Williams was a dominant reliever last year (1375 ERA+ with nearly 18 K/9) and has been very good this year (155 in 50 IP with a 14 K/9). He's even somehow managed to have a 7-2 record.

Schwindel grand slam puts Cubs up 11-8.

I'd have to say RoY voters have done a pretty good job the last decade. A big influx of really good young players having really good rookie seasons helped that of course but the worst players for 2011-20 are probably Lewis, the injured Michael Fulmer, Wil Myers (still in the majors) and Jeremy Hellickson. (Which is not to say they were bad selections for RoY necessarily). 7 MVPs (3 Trout + Harper, Bryant, Abreu, Bellinger ... and probably an 8th from Ohtani) and 2 CYA (deGrom ... but just 4 SP out of the 20 picks). And nobody would be shocked if Acuna or Correa grabbed an MVP in the next few years.
   75. cardsfanboy Posted: September 05, 2021 at 06:08 PM (#6038402)
There really is someone named Schwindel... I thought you guys were pulling my leg. :)
   76. cardsfanboy Posted: September 05, 2021 at 06:10 PM (#6038403)
Damn, weak ass hit for a double, and tying run to the plate for the second consecutive inning.
   77. cardsfanboy Posted: September 05, 2021 at 06:15 PM (#6038404)
The Cardinals just do not want to win.
   78. Walt Davis Posted: September 05, 2021 at 06:18 PM (#6038405)
In 1947 and 48, there was a single RoY winner, switching to separate ones in 49. That gives us 146 RoY winners. It's too late on the weekend to do a quiz so some Roy factoids:

Most WAR: Trout 10.5 in 2012
Least WAR: Ken Hubbs 0.0 in 1962
Median WAR: around 3.6 to 3.8 (Blefary, Andrew Bailey, Yordan Alvarez, Kerry Wood)

I was originally thinking Bailey was one of their worse picks lately but a 3.7 WAR season for a reliever is something -- 83 IP, 1.84 ERA. He missed a month the next year but otherwise a pretty similar season. He got hurt again (I assume) and missed the start of his 3rd season and was never that dominant guy again, traded that offseason for Reddick.
   79. cardsfanboy Posted: September 05, 2021 at 06:19 PM (#6038406)
you have to be ####### kidding me.
   80. cardsfanboy Posted: September 05, 2021 at 06:21 PM (#6038407)
Two walk off grand slams allowed by Reyes in 7 days.
   81. Howie Menckel Posted: September 05, 2021 at 06:31 PM (#6038410)
Vogelbach, after sitting out 2 months, in his 6th AB upon returning greets "fireman" Reyes with a walkoff slam in MIL's soul-crushing 6-5 win over STL
   82. What if I planted tomatoes Posted: September 05, 2021 at 06:33 PM (#6038411)
Vogelbach is a low ball hitter. He swings his bat like a golf club. If that low fastball was on purpose that helped DV big time
   83. Brian C Posted: September 05, 2021 at 06:45 PM (#6038412)
With the victory today, the Cubs pass the magic 63-win mark. Doesn't seem like much of an accomplishment, but Sept 5 is way earlier than anyone had in the pool.

This series against Pittsburgh was really something else. Not good baseball, obviously, but it sure was fun.
   84. The Duke Posted: September 05, 2021 at 07:09 PM (#6038413)
The cardinals are bound and determined to win the wild card by losing 2 out 3 in every series
   85. Howie Menckel Posted: September 05, 2021 at 07:27 PM (#6038417)
ignoring LA/SF, the other WILD CARD goes to one of:

SDP 73-64 ---
CIN 73-65 0.5
PHI 70-66 2.5
STL 69-66 3
NY.. 69-68 4

Mets have none left w SDP or CIN, alas. but 3 vs STL and 3 vs PHI Sept 13-19, all 6 at home

MIL leads Central by 11 games and plays games 157-159 vs Mets - could see a lotta scrubeenies (even with only a 28-man roster; lots of silly 10-day IL trips to plan)
   86. Doug Jones threw harder than me Posted: September 05, 2021 at 07:47 PM (#6038420)
San Diego have recovered slightly from their deep slide, and against Houston to boot. They still have a tough road ahead in comparison with CIN or PHI.

A's on the other hand have sprung huge leaks, with not enough thumbs (offense) for all the holes in the hull (pitching staff). No way the A's offense can score 9 runs/game, which is what it's going to take.

Dodgers and Giants both playing well and the games have been classics.

   87. Howie Menckel Posted: September 05, 2021 at 07:56 PM (#6038424)
AL WILD CARD entering Monday (TWO slots)

NYY 78-58 +0.5
BOS 79-60 ---

SEA 75-62 3
TOR 73-62 4
OAK 74-63 4

marquee showdown starting Mon: TOR at NYY (4 games)

next weekend: NYY at NYM; and CIN at STL
   88. The Yankee Clapper Posted: September 05, 2021 at 08:14 PM (#6038429)
The Yankees couldn’t hold multiple leads today, and the absence of Jonathan Loaisiga didn’t help:
The Yankees are placing righty Jonathan Loaisiga on the IL with a right shoulder strain, per a team announcement. Yankees manager Aaron Boone told reporters, including Bryan Hoch of MLB.com, that the strain is in Loaisiga’s rotator cuff and he won’t throw for at least 10 days. Fellow right-handed Albert Abreu has been recalled to take Loaisiga’s place on the roster.

This is very unfortunate news for both Loaisiga and the team, as the righty is having the best season of his career so far and has been one of the most valuable pitchers on the team. Through 68 innings out of the Yankees’ bullpen this year, he has an ERA of 2.25. His 24.2% strikeout rate is actually close to league average, but his 5.5% walk rate and 61.3% groundball rate are both excellent. On the season, he’s been worth 2.2 wins above replacement, according to FanGraphs, third-most among Yankees pitchers, behind Gerrit Cole and Jordan Montgomery, and tied with Josh Hader for the most among all relievers in baseball.
He may not be available for the rest of the season, so others will have to step up.
   89. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: September 05, 2021 at 10:52 PM (#6038446)
Loaisiga's loss puts even more pressure on an overworked bullpen that way too often has been forced to cover 3 to 4 (or more) innings in game after game after game, with Cole the only starter who seems capable of consistently going 6 or 7. Add to that the total non-productivity of the bottom half of the lineup (not to mention Joey Strikeouts, to date a complete bust), and it's starting to look like that recent winning streak had less to it than met the eye.
   90. bobm Posted: September 06, 2021 at 12:46 PM (#6038473)
28 Home Runs in 1916-2021 – Down 3 Runs, Walk-off, 123 [bases loaded]

                                                                                        
Date                       Batter  Tm Opp           Pitcher      Score Inn Out  WPA   LI
1925-09-24              Babe Ruth NYY CHW    Sarge Connally   down 5-2 b10   1 0.78 5.15
1936-05-23            Samuel Byrd CIN PIT        Cy Blanton   down 3-0  b9   0 0.68 5.59
1950-07-08          Jack Phillips PIT STL    Harry Brecheen   down 6-3  b9   1 0.79 5.08
1952-06-16          Bobby Thomson NYG STL   Willard Schmidt   down 7-4  b9   1 0.81 4.88
1955-09-11 (1)       Del Crandall MLN PHI     Herm Wehmeier   down 4-1  b9   2 0.91 3.74
1956-05-11          Danny Kravitz PIT PHI        Jack Meyer   down 5-2  b9   0 0.69 5.62
1963-08-31           Ellis Burton CHC HOU    Hal Woodeshick   down 5-2  b9   2 0.91 3.64
1970-08-02            Tony Taylor PHI SFG      Mike Davison   down 6-3  b9   0 0.68 5.59
1970-08-11            Carl Taylor STL SDP        Ron Herbel  down 10-7  b9   2 0.90 3.81
1973-04-22 (1)         Ron Lolich CLE BOS     Sonny Siebert   down 7-4  b9   2 0.91 3.74
1979-05-01            Roger Freed STL HOU       Joe Sambito   down 6-3 b11   2 0.91 3.72
1983-04-13                Bo Diaz PHI NYM        Neil Allen   down 9-6  b9   2 0.91 3.65
1984-08-31             Buddy Bell TEX MIL         Pete Ladd   down 6-3  b9   2 0.90 3.80
1985-04-13           Phil Bradley SEA MIN         Ron Davis   down 7-4  b9   2 0.90 3.81
1986-08-29         Dick Schofield CAL DET  Willie Hernandez  down 12-9  b9   2 0.90 3.81
1988-06-21          Alan Trammell DET NYY    Cecilio Guante   down 6-3  b9   2 0.91 3.69
1996-05-17           Chris Hoiles BAL SEA     Norm Charlton down 13-10  b9   2 0.89 4.00
2001-07-28 (1)        Brian Giles PIT HOU      Billy Wagner   down 8-5  b9   2 0.90 3.88
2002-05-17           Jason Giambi NYY MIN     Mike Trombley  down 12-9 b14   1 0.79 5.09
2006-06-30              Adam Dunn CIN CLE       Bob Wickman   down 8-5  b9   2 0.90 3.92
2010-05-20          Brooks Conrad ATL CIN Francisco Cordero   down 9-6  b9   1 0.80 4.90
2011-07-07          Travis Hafner CLE TOR        Luis Perez   down 4-1  b9   1 0.81 4.88
2011-08-16        Brian Bogusevic HOU CHC     Carlos Marmol   down 5-2  b9   1 0.81 4.79
2011-09-27           Ryan Roberts ARI LAD       Javy Guerra   down 6-3 b10   2 0.91 3.70
2014-06-30            Rajai Davis DET OAK    Sean Doolittle   down 4-1  b9   1 0.81 4.87
2017-07-30           Steve Pearce TOR LAA        Bud Norris  down 10-7  b9   1 0.79 5.07
2018-08-12             David Bote CHC WSN       Ryan Madson   down 3-0  b9   2 0.90 3.79
2021-09-05       Daniel Vogelbach MIL STL        Alex Reyes   down 5-2  b9   1 0.80 5.02


Provided by Stathead.com: View Stathead Tool Used
Generated 9/6/2021.
   91. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: September 06, 2021 at 04:32 PM (#6038480)
I wonder how many of those walkoff grand slams with 2 outs came on an 0-2 or 3-2 count?

EDIT: It turns out that the first one that came with two outs (Del Crandall's, 9/11/1955) was on a 3-2 pitch.

EDIT: And so was Trammell's. It was the 5th time that year where the Yankees blew a game where they were within one out of victory (sound familiar), and in this case a victory would've vaulted them over the Tigers into first place.
   92. Brian C Posted: September 06, 2021 at 05:14 PM (#6038481)
Cubs win their 7th in a row, beating an actual MLB team today, behind an 8th-inning RBI single by - you guessed it - Frank Schwindel [/Norm McDonald voice].

Schwindel has now driven in the winning run in 4 straight games, which seems like it ought to be at least close to some kind of record.
   93. Hombre Brotani Posted: September 06, 2021 at 05:17 PM (#6038482)
OH MY GOD. Austin Meadows led off the ninth with an inside-the-park homer to tie the game at 9-9.
   94. Hombre Brotani Posted: September 06, 2021 at 05:20 PM (#6038483)
Boston can't really afford to lose this one.
   95. Hombre Brotani Posted: September 06, 2021 at 05:39 PM (#6038486)
And Tampa takes the lead. From a 7-1 deficit to a 10-9 lead. Ouch.

11-9.
   96. The Duke Posted: September 06, 2021 at 05:40 PM (#6038487)
90. I was at that Roger freed game !!!
   97. The Duke Posted: September 06, 2021 at 05:41 PM (#6038488)
So many epic comebacks lately. No lead is safe !!!
   98. The Duke Posted: September 06, 2021 at 05:45 PM (#6038489)
Wheeler finds another gear and moves to top of cy young list. Scherzer coming up on the outside. Woodruff, Burnes and Buehler fading down the stretch .

Urias and gausmann looking for a hole to open up so they make their way to the front
   99. Hombre Brotani Posted: September 06, 2021 at 06:03 PM (#6038494)
BoSox, down by 1, load the bases with two out in the 10th. This game has really been something else.

EDIT: And the game's over. The Rays with a monster comeback.
   100. The Duke Posted: September 06, 2021 at 06:13 PM (#6038496)
The Chris sale is back meme takes a detour today
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