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Yoenis Cespedes’ drastic Mets pay cut could get lager

Yoenis Cespedes’ pay cut for next season could be deeper than originally anticipated.

Industry sources confirmed Saturday the veteran outfielder’s guaranteed salary for next season, as part of a restructured contract, will be just $6 million. But Cespedes would collect another $5 million if he avoids beginning the season on the injured list because of right foot or ankle injuries that kept him sidelined in 2019. The Associated Press first reported terms of the new deal.

The club initially disputed the report that Cespedes’ guaranteed salary for next year would be $6 million, but a source indicated the Mets were viewing the contract as $11 million for 2020 with $5 million deducted if the player begins the season on the IL with the aforementioned injuries. Cespedes’ original contract, signed before the 2017 season, called for him to earn $29.5 million next year.

Jim Furtado Posted: December 22, 2019 at 09:52 AM | 49 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. PreservedFish Posted: December 22, 2019 at 10:20 AM (#5910405)
He must really be aleing.
   2. Baldrick Posted: December 22, 2019 at 10:24 AM (#5910408)
It's a pretty bitter pill to swallow.
   3. Starring RMc as Bradley Scotchman Posted: December 22, 2019 at 10:24 AM (#5910409)
I'm not sure how drinking German beer is going to help matters. (On the other hand, it can't hurt...)
   4. Esoteric Posted: December 22, 2019 at 10:50 AM (#5910412)
It's a pretty bitter pill to swallow.
A pretty bitter pilsner, you mean.
   5. Nasty Nate Posted: December 22, 2019 at 10:55 AM (#5910413)
Who negotiated for him, Kramer?
   6. Fernigal McGunnigle Posted: December 22, 2019 at 10:55 AM (#5910414)
I'm not sure how drinking German beer is going to help matters. (On the other hand, it can't hurt...)
Don't you know? Alcohol is the cause of, and solution to, all of life's problems. (Not sure if I got it right, but I think that's how the line gose.)
   7. Nasty Nate Posted: December 22, 2019 at 10:56 AM (#5910415)
With an agreement in place, Ellsbury can hop forward in the line for dispute resolution.
   8. Howie Menckel Posted: December 22, 2019 at 11:03 AM (#5910417)
Ces pedes for the rest of us!

I guess the time for Airing of Grievances has passed.

"Cespedes will get an additional $5 million if he is on the roster for Opening Day. He also has a large number of incremental playing time bonuses that could earn him an additional $9 million dollars if he reaches 650 plate appearances. There are also bonuses for awards such as MVP, Silver Slugger, Gold Glove etc. that could result in another $4 million. If he gets traded he could get another $2 million. If he hits every milestone (very unlikely) he could max out at $26 million."

I imagine Cespedes sitting across the table from Mets executives. he slides a piece of paper across the room and says, "These are my demands." Mets execs leave the room to confer.

as one starts reading that list aloud, what starts as spit takes evolves into chuckles and giggles, which then quickly turn into guffaws - and then howls and backslapping. even a few snorts are heard.

it takes a minute for them to settle down and walk back in acting reluctant. but they say they'll "give in."

Cespedes leaves the room - and champagne corks pop immediately.
   9. Starring RMc as Bradley Scotchman Posted: December 22, 2019 at 11:37 AM (#5910420)
"Get over here and wrestle Cespdes...!"
   10. Nasty Nate Posted: December 22, 2019 at 12:10 PM (#5910430)
He likes playing in Willets Pint
   11. The Duke Posted: December 22, 2019 at 12:41 PM (#5910436)
It’s a shame, he was a stout player in his prime who could really mash. Now it just seems he’s bitter
   12. The Yankee Clapper Posted: December 22, 2019 at 01:06 PM (#5910444)
Lolly Lager.
   13. asinwreck Posted: December 22, 2019 at 01:23 PM (#5910448)
The good news is Cespedes's injuries have been to his feet and ankles. His boch is fine.
   14. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: December 22, 2019 at 04:53 PM (#5910485)
Cespedes must have been reading George Orwell's Dining Out in Paris and London.
   15. Welcome to Gator Hammock (CoB). Posted: December 22, 2019 at 05:11 PM (#5910487)
Cespedes should give some money back, it's the yeast he could do.
   16. Edmundo got dem ol' Kozma blues again mama Posted: December 22, 2019 at 06:11 PM (#5910497)
It’s nothing that a few more dubbels and tripels can’t fix.
   17. Edmundo got dem ol' Kozma blues again mama Posted: December 22, 2019 at 06:12 PM (#5910498)
It’s nothing that a few more dubbels and tripels can’t fix.
   18. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: December 22, 2019 at 06:33 PM (#5910502)
He’ll probably show up at spring training riding a Clydesdale.
   19. manchestermets Posted: December 22, 2019 at 06:52 PM (#5910505)
So this gives them how much CBT clearance? Go out and get Mookie then give him a big extension you tightwads.
   20. bobm Posted: December 22, 2019 at 08:49 PM (#5910514)
Now they'll definitely trade him to the Brewers for Hader.
   21. Blastin Posted: December 22, 2019 at 09:21 PM (#5910516)
He sings the songs that remind him of the good times. He sings the songs that remind him of the better times.
   22. PreservedFish Posted: December 22, 2019 at 11:08 PM (#5910523)
He could still be a solid mid-saison addition to the team. He's barley 34 years old; at the same age Walt Weiss made the All-Star team and Darrell Porter had a 138 OPS+.
   23. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: December 23, 2019 at 12:30 AM (#5910527)
PF wins.
   24. Starring RMc as Bradley Scotchman Posted: December 23, 2019 at 10:57 AM (#5910582)
All those in favour of slightly misspelling all headlines on BBTF, in order to create snarky responses, say AYE...!
   25. Nasty Nate Posted: December 23, 2019 at 11:03 AM (#5910588)
Gonfalon Cubs: Being cheap is not a plane
Newsblog: Report: Umpires agree to MLB's teat plans for automated strike zone
Newsblog: Blue Jays To Sign Hyun-Jin Rye
   26. McCoy Posted: December 23, 2019 at 11:05 AM (#5910589)
In the old days this would have devolved into a 200 post thread about good beers. Tis a shame.
   27. PreservedFish Posted: December 23, 2019 at 11:09 AM (#5910591)
Newsblog: Report: Umpires agree to MLB's teat plans for automated strike zone


Bet we could milk that one for a few good puns.
   28. PreservedFish Posted: December 23, 2019 at 11:18 AM (#5910597)
In the old days this would have devolved into a 200 post thread about good beers. Tis a shame.


Beer is SO GOOD now and so hyperlocal, that it's become almost impossible to talk about on a national website. In large parts of the country you can't swing a cat without hitting a terrific little microbrewery, and most of these places have large and ever-changing lineups with seasonal specials, limited editions, and the like. I can't even drink enough Maine beer to talk about it authoritatively, how am I supposed to contribute if people are talking about Colorado or Chicago or Texas microbrews?

It's an extraordinary change. In "the old days" the conversation was more limited to the pioneering acclaimed breweries, Dogfish and the like.

It's kind of like how music discussion is all but dead on the pop culture thread, and television discussion is practically there too - the medium is too diffuse. There are so many good tv shows that every one of us could be binging a half dozen different ones and have zero common ground. Once upon a time every family read the Bible at night, now the closest thing we have to a shared cultural product are superhero movies.
   29. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: December 23, 2019 at 11:26 AM (#5910604)
In large parts of the country you can't swing a cat without hitting a terrific little microbrewery,
But why would you want to do that? How did we end up with so much feline cruelty in our figures of speech, what with cats getting swung around and skinned in multiple ways and whatnot?
   30. Nasty Nate Posted: December 23, 2019 at 11:39 AM (#5910610)
But why would you want to do that? How did we end up with so much feline cruelty in our figures of speech, what with cats getting swung around and skinned in multiple ways and whatnot?
No wonder they're always trying to get out of the bag.
   31. Howie Menckel Posted: December 23, 2019 at 11:49 AM (#5910614)
is it better to "swing a dead cat" - or a live one?

also wondering if there is a "Top 10 Ways to Skin a Cat" - we are constantly told there is more than one way - but no way in hell am I googling that....
   32. PreservedFish Posted: December 23, 2019 at 12:22 PM (#5910625)
At least tin roof construction has declined.
   33. craigamazing Posted: December 23, 2019 at 12:22 PM (#5910626)
Once upon a time every family read the Bible at night, now the closest thing we have to a shared cultural product are superhero movies.


And that's not even that close to being truly shared, across a number of age groups and demographics. I haven't watched a superhero movie since Iron Man 2, and there is maybe one or two people in my group of friends/peer group who gives a rat's behind about superhero movies. Yes, more people watch superhero movies than I dunno, "A Marriage Story" or "Uncut Gems", but its still a fairly niche group among adults.
   34. JAHV Posted: December 23, 2019 at 12:25 PM (#5910627)
Cespedes is a player with a lot of worts, but he's got a tun of upside.
   35. JAHV Posted: December 23, 2019 at 12:31 PM (#5910630)
But why would you want to do that? How did we end up with so much feline cruelty in our figures of speech, what with cats getting swung around and skinned in multiple ways and whatnot?


I couldn't think of a better animal to be the subject of swinging for the purpose of finding good beer.

But please don't let this devolve into a cat defense thread. I'd much rather talk about good beer. Anyone had any good widely distributed Christmas ales this year? I had a good bottle of Delirium Noel, but it's always better on tap and the usual local place that carries it has gone out of business. Deschutes Jubelale was solid this year.
   36. Walt Davis Posted: December 23, 2019 at 07:12 PM (#5910738)
I haven't had one in a few years (and only out of a bottle imported halfway around the world) but I always enjoyed the Hook Norton (UK) Twelve Days Porter.** (Not that I am any sort of expert on Christmas beers or even 100% certain this one qualifies.) If I can get it here, probably not too hard to find in the states.

By the way, Aussie craft beers have greatly improved in the last 5 years or so. No idea if any of them export to the US.

** Coulda sworn it was an "ale" (of the dark British variety not the IPA, etc. variety) but checking their website they call it a "porter" now, accurate enough per my memory.
   37. bobm Posted: December 23, 2019 at 07:24 PM (#5910740)
But why would you want to do that? How did we end up with so much feline cruelty in our figures of speech, what with cats getting swung around and skinned in multiple ways and whatnot?

No wonder they're always trying to get out of the bag.


The origin of "swing a cat" and "let the cat out of the bag" may be the "cat-o'-nine-tails," a "whip with nine lashes widely used to punish offenders in the British military" per dictionary.com.
   38. manchestermets Posted: December 24, 2019 at 05:10 AM (#5910786)
I learnt that the origin of "let the cat out of the bag" was related to the expression "a pig in a poke". At some time in the olden days, it was common for (presumably young) pigs to be sold at market contained in a bag, which was buying a pig in a poke. Unscrupulous farmers would substitute a cat for the pig, so if you discovered this before the transaction were complete you would have let the cat out of the bag.
   39. Fernigal McGunnigle Posted: December 24, 2019 at 08:43 AM (#5910795)
My extensive research that consisted of reading the first link that Google threw up suggests that both the cat-o'-nine-tails and the pig skullduggery are dubious explanations for "cat out of the bag".

Additional research! Supposedly the phrase first appeared in the 1760 edition of the London Magazine, but I can't find it through searching. (This might just be an OCR problem.) It appears in two Google Books books in the 1760s, in Every Man His Own Broker: or, a Guide to Exchange-Alley from 1761 and a translation of Moliere's Le Bourgeois Gentlehomme, called "The Gentleman Cit.", from 1762. Both usages are financial; letting the cat out of the bag here seems to mean spending more money. Neither the whip or the pig reference would make any sense in this context. Was there a coin with a lion on it, maybe?
   40. PreservedFish Posted: December 24, 2019 at 09:58 AM (#5910807)
I learnt that the origin of "let the cat out of the bag" was related to the expression "a pig in a poke". At some time in the olden days, it was common for (presumably young) pigs to be sold at market contained in a bag, which was buying a pig in a poke. Unscrupulous farmers would substitute a cat for the pig, so if you discovered this before the transaction were complete you would have let the cat out of the bag.


This is impossible to believe. Who would just buy a bag of pigs without looking inside it? Nobody could ever get away with it once, and certainly not twice, and certainly certainly not enough times for the phrase to enter common usage.

   41. Nasty Nate Posted: December 24, 2019 at 10:02 AM (#5910808)
This is impossible to believe. Who would just buy a bag of pigs without looking inside it? Nobody could ever get away with it once, and certainly not twice, and certainly certainly not enough times for the phrase to enter common usage.
If you can't tell the difference between an Oink and a Meow, you might be stupid enough to fall for the trick over and over.
   42. Benji Gil Gamesh VII - The Opt-Out Awakens Posted: December 24, 2019 at 10:05 AM (#5910810)
Anyone had any good widely distributed Christmas ales this year?
I have a very longstanding affection for Samuel Smith's Winter Welcome Ale (probably the first really good beer I ever had in a bar back in college), but it's not been easy to find. Lo and behold this weekend I saw that Trader Joe's is now distributing a 30th anniversary version of it, $3.99. It's just like I remember it, rich and creamy. (Note it's not a Christmas ale in the sense of spices and whatnot.)
   43. Fernigal McGunnigle Posted: December 24, 2019 at 10:33 AM (#5910816)
I normally don't like spiced beers, but I enjoyed Prairie Artisan's Seasick Crocodile. (Despite the name, it's a Christmas beer -- the seasick crocodile chases Santa around the can.) Cinnamon, nutmeg, and cranberry in a sour ale. It's probably best if can drink about 8 ounces and then move on. Maybe split two cans among three people.
   44. PreservedFish Posted: December 24, 2019 at 10:42 AM (#5910823)
You guys don't just pour egg nog into your beers?
   45. Itchy Row Posted: December 24, 2019 at 10:49 AM (#5910826)
Prairie Artisan's Seasick Crocodile. (Despite the name, it's a Christmas beer -- the seasick crocodile chases Santa around the can.)
That is from a Christmas song. Most of us would be even shittier than the Grinch if somebody followed us around singing about how disgusting we are while we're just playing with our dog and plotting against the neighbors.
   46. formerly dp Posted: December 24, 2019 at 04:04 PM (#5910878)
Betances signs with Mets for $10.5 m. With a bounce back from Diaz, maybe from Familia as well, and Lugo having taken a huge step forward, the bullpen could be a strength in 2020.

The deal is worth $10.5 million, but Betances could earn $13 million if he appears in 70 games. There is a player option in 2021 and a vesting player option for 2022, sources told ESPN's Jeff Passan.
   47. Adam Starblind Posted: December 25, 2019 at 12:29 PM (#5910918)
Anyone had any good widely distributed Christmas ales this year?


Always been a fan of Sierra Nevada's Celebration Ale.
   48. The Yankee Clapper Posted: January 03, 2020 at 10:49 PM (#5912762)
‘Twas a wild boar that laid the mighty Cespedes low.
   49. Darren Posted: January 03, 2020 at 11:07 PM (#5912764)
I heard it was 30 to 50 wild boars.

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