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Young pitchers form the core of Detroit’s rebuild

LAKELAND, Fla. (AP) — Casey Mize was the No. 1 pick in the 2018 amateur draft, and Matt Manning was a first-round selection two years earlier.

Those two pitchers are the headliners of Detroit’s rebuilding process — and they aren’t the only Tigers prospects worth paying attention to this year.

“I think there’s some other names that probably should be involved in that as well,” Mize said. “We have a really good group, honestly. The more people we can attach to that headline, is probably for the better. That’s good news for Tigers fans, good news for the organization.”

The Tigers held their first workout for pitchers and catchers Wednesday, and while only the most optimistic Detroit fan would predict a great season, there are finally some signs of promise. Mize, Manning and Tarik Skubal are all in camp as non-roster invitees. Although none of them are expected to be in the big leagues on opening day, they could form the core of the Tigers’ rotation of the future.



QLE Posted: February 13, 2020 at 01:20 AM | 3 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
  Tags: casey mize, matt manning, tarik skubal, tigers

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   1. bfan Posted: February 13, 2020 at 06:10 PM (#5924313)
I like the Tigers' young pitching prospects a lot more than the Braves', although much of that is because a bucket-load of young Braves arms (Wisler; Blair; Sims; Jenkins; Allard; Ellis for sure, and now maybe Wright and Touki) seem to have come up and through the system, and then washed out.

In this case TINSTAAPP applied because the pitchers were not effective and not because they blew their arms out.

I hope a better percentage of Detroit's pitchers achieve MLB success. I think Joey Wentz is going to be very good, as will Mize and Manning.
   2. bbmck Posted: February 13, 2020 at 07:36 PM (#5924324)
459 Starting Pitchers with 21+ WAR7, MLB teams with 4 or more of those pitchers at Age 25 or younger:

2001-02 Marlins: Josh Beckett, AJ Burnett, Ryan Dempster, Brad Penny
1986 Royals: David Cone, Mark Gubicza, Danny Jackson, Bret Saberhagen
1981 Dodgers: Dave Stewart, Rick Sutcliffe, Fernando Valenzuela, Bob Welch
1978 Dodgers: Rick Rhoden, Dave Stewart, Rick Sutcliffe, Bob Welch
1972 Astros: Larry Dierker, Ken Forsch, Jerry Reuss, JR Richard

1916-17 Red Sox: Sad Sam Jones, Dutch Leonard, Carl Mays, Herb Pennock
1915 Red Sox: Dutch Leonard, Carl Mays, Herb Pennock, Smoky Joe Wood
1915 Braves: Jesse Barnes, Dolf Luque, Art Nehf, Lefty Tyler
1892 Browns: Theodore Breitenstien, Frank Dwyer, Kid Gleason, Pink Hawley

Most recent trios:

2009 Giants: Madison Bumgarner, Matt Cain, Tim Lincecum
2006-07 Marlins: Josh Johnson, Anibal Sanchez, Dontrelle Willis
2005 Marlins: Josh Beckett, Josh Johnson, Dontrelle Willis
2003 Marlins: Josh Beckett, Brad Penny, Dontrelle Willis

2000-01 Athletics: Tim Hudson, Mark Mulder, Barry Zito
2000 Marlins: AJ Burnett, Ryan Dempster, Brad Penny
1999 Marlins: AJ Burnett, Ryan Dempster, Livan Hernandez
1992-93 Dodgers: Pedro Astacio, Pedro Martinez, Ramon Martinez

Most recent duo is Jose Quintana and Chris Sale on the 2012-14 White Sox in part because younger duos have yet to accumulate 21 career WAR even if they are quite likely to do so.
   3. Ziggy is done with Dominican discotheques Posted: February 13, 2020 at 10:07 PM (#5924357)
Mize and Manning are more heralded, but I think Skubal may be the best of them. He has hilarious strike out rates, and good K/BB rates. Fangraphs doesn't really like him (comparatively, they have him as the 53rd best prospect in baseball) because he's heavily fastball-reliant. But, man, 13.2 K/9 and 2.5 BB/9 is hard to argue with. (Mize: 8.8 and 1.9, Manning 11.1 and 3.3.)

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