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Transaction Oracle — A Timely Look at Transactions as They Happen Friday, December 22, 2006Reds - Acquired ConineCincinnati Reds - Acquired OF Jeff Conine from the Philadelphia Phillies for OF Javon Moran and IF Brad Key.
The Reds aren’t losing anything here in what they’re giving away as Brad Key’s an infielder who’s not good enough to play in the Midwest League and Javon Moran’s future is as a 5th outfielder for a team with some bad defensive players (hey, the Reds! Whoops). Where the Reds are losing is that Conine is probably going to take away at-bats from Chris Denorfia, who’s a better player, and the organization is too cowardly to platoon Conine with Hatteberg after Hatteberg’s fine season. Not that organizational cowardice is anything new - this is the team that boldly cuts Josh Hancock for being fat and Brandon Claussen for being injured but refuses to take any kind of a stand with players that the average talk radio casual fan has heard of.
Dunn-Griffey-Conine is a really comical defensive outfield - Eric Milton should sue the Reds for violating his rights under the 8th amendment.
Another thumbs-down for the Reds. Wayne Krivsky’s Problem Solving Policy remains “Look at team, identify hole that Marty Brennaman or Hal McCoy comically rant incoherently about, acquire the most famous, cheapest player Wayne remembers from when he was making Terry Ryan’s coffee or picking up Terry Ryan’s lunch from Gleuk’s on 6th Street with exact change and tip because Wayne can’t figure out what the numbers on different bills signify.
Dan Szymborski
Posted: December 22, 2006 at 12:53 AM | 27 comment(s)
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1. Infinite Yost (Voxter)No they didn't. You're joking right? That could not have really happened.
Did Hatteberg really have a "fine season"? Yeah, he was good with the glove, but he was also one of the worst-hitting first basemen in the league.
Well, in last year's NL that was good enough for an RCAP of -16, which is pretty crappy. It's really semantics, though: if one were to say "Hatteberg was fine last year," it sounds like he was adequate, but to say that he had a "fine season" makes it sound to me like he was actually good. Anyway, carry on; it was a minor quibble.
How the mighty have fallen... now they haul in the remains of Jeff Conine as if artificially recreating that logjam will somehow help.
Is it something in the water of Cincy? Krivsky seems to have a lot of Jeff Bowden in him -- some really sharp moves that end up looking like outliers when you factor in his truly bad ones.
I imagine I'd hate playing poker with either of them - not because they're any great shakes, but because they both seem like the types that play moronically -- but always seem to draw those impossible inside straights at the worst possible time for everyone else.
I wish I were. Alas, I'm not.
Jesus, that's just stupid. I really hate to post on a baseball message board and call someone in professional baseball stupid, but man, that is one dumb move.
Dan, do you have the ZIPS for Harris?
He'll be 27 in 2007,went from prospect to suspect a while ago.
He's probably just about a league average hitter, so he's probably a better hitter and fielder than somene like a 41 year old Jeff Conine, but no biggie
hey wait a minute....
GRRRRR!!! They protected David Howard instead of Conine the Barbarian in the expansion draft! HERK ROBINSON!!!!!
Yes, there are still Reds fans. Just not happy Reds fans. Conine is not at all what this club needs. I think Krivsky is trying to replicate the success he had with Aurilia and Hatteberg. It seems the Red's new organizational model is the Giants (with Dunn and Griffey as the road-company Barry Bonds). Ugh!
Well, there are still happy fans that apparently have the IQ of dishwater. Looking at scout.com's Red forums, a lot of people like this move, citing all the retarded OMG CONINE IS TOTALLY CLUTCH AND HAS VETERAN EXPERIENCE AND LEADERSHIP! stuff without a hint of irony.
That said doesn't the Cincinatti farm system have some young stud who would better serve the future by getting playing time over Conine either at 1st base or OF?
Has Griffey now become a liability in CF due to age/injuries?
Conine has an excellant glove but no range in the field; the poster who said an OF made up of Dunn, Griffey and Conine might be comical was probably on target range-wise.
Well, I said is not might! The whole thing is funny - the Reds obsess about infield defense while assembling one of the strongest flyball rotations in recent years backed up by an outfield in which Jeff Conine is the best defensive player.
People wonder how Dave Littlefield would GM if he had a little more money. The wondering is over, Wayne.
Perish the thought... US Orioles fans have seen that picture show much too often! Only the names change and it's not to protect the guilty either.
DuqFailagan and the inequities of incompetence.
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trevise
Does it make me old that I remember when Conine was a hot Royals prospect? It sure seems like a long time ago.
Not unless 28 is old, because I remember this.
I stumbled across a Jermaine Dye "Future Star" card the other day. That made me feel a little old.
Does the Pope #### in the woods?
A while back I was contemplating how many current (or recent) major league managers appeared on "future star" cards I collected in my youth. THAT made me feel old. Let's see, off the top of my head:
Gardenhire
Brenly
Scioscia
Francona
I remember those 4 for sure, and there are probably others.
Others were rookies after the "future stars" cards were included in the Topps set--Guillen, Girardi, Wedge. Sigh.
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