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Primate Studies — Where BTF's Members Investigate the Grand Old Game Tuesday, December 12, 2017Loser Scores 2017The fine print: Bill James came up with Loser Scores after the 2010 season, in an effort to measure how the Pirates’ string of losing seasons compared to other lengthy stretches of bad baseball. I’ve updated the totals every year since then. You compute Loser Scores in this fashion: 1. A team that has a losing season adds to its Loser Score the total of games under .500, plus the number of consecutive seasons that the team has been under .500. The 2017 results: Team W L Games Under Streak Loser Score Pittsburgh 75 87 12 2 280 Colorado 87 75 -12 1 200 San Diego 71 91 20 7 186 Cincinnati 68 94 26 4 162 Miami 77 85 8 8 160 Seattle 78 84 6 1 146 Milwaukee 86 76 -10 1 133 Philadelphia 66 96 30 5 133 Minnesota 85 77 -8 1 132 Chicago WS 67 95 28 5 111 Atlanta 72 90 18 4 85 Arizona 93 69 -24 1 70 Oakland 75 87 12 3 68 New York Mets 70 92 22 1 59 Tampa Bay 80 82 2 4 48 Baltimore 75 87 12 1 42 Detroit 64 98 34 1 37 San Francisco 64 98 34 1 35 LAA of Anaheim 80 82 2 2 19 Toronto 76 86 10 1 11 Texas 78 84 6 1 7 Kansas City 80 82 2 1 3 New York Yankees 91 71 -20 25 0 St. Louis 83 79 -4 10 0 LA Dodgers 104 58 -46 7 0 Washington 97 65 -32 6 0 Cleveland 102 60 -42 5 0 Chicago Cubs 92 70 -22 3 0 Houston (WS) 101 61 -40 3 0 Boston 93 69 -24 2 0 The top 2 are the same as a year ago. However, there was quite a bit of shuffling in the rest of the top 10 thanks to the unexpectedly good seasons from Milwaukee and Minnesota and less-than stellar seasons from Cincinnati and Philadelphia. Some other items of note: If I had to guess which team was likely to push the Pirates off the top I’d pick the Reds; I can’t see them having a random good season any time soon.
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1. villageidiom Posted: December 13, 2017 at 12:38 PM (#5591778)If I look at Miami and figure they've got a few years adding 30 to their total per year, it would take 4 years for them to catch where the Pirates are today. Same, roughly, for Cincinnati. I think the challenge here is that the Pirates aren't going to make it that easy, while these teams will eventually improve.
I suppose the Marlins could make a push. They have eight straight below-.500 records so 66-96 will get them to 199 and they could easily be worse than that. I don't see the Reds, outside of Votto, as having significantly better talent, and they could very well move the non-Votto talent they do have (I know they're trying to deal Cozart).
-- MWE
The AL picture is more even, thanks in part to the recent success of the Royals and Indians, and the White Sox' perennial inability to capitalise on their market. Even plucky little Tampa Bay has mid-table respectability.
-- MWE
In 1952, the Phillies were at 875. (The Phillies would peak in 1974 with a score of 1,034. It's just unimaginable, if I hadn't been alive then.)
In 1952, the Browns were at 759.
Despite having played through the era of loss of 'hope and faith', during which huge subsidies were handed out to the owners of teams in form of publicly funded ballparks in order to prevent the creation of a new generation of Sad-Sacks, the Pirates still have a lot of ground to make up on those two.
If the Pirates lost 100 games for twelve years in a row, that would start them at (81-62=19)*12=228, plus 1 through 12 for 78 equals 306, taking them to 586. (I did that in my head so it might be wrong.)
They are still another 10 100-loss seasons off the kind of scores the Browns and Phillies had in 1952. That's just unimaginable in an era of the draft and free agency.
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