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   1. villageidiom Posted: December 12, 2018 at 12:11 PM (#5797086)
Delcarmen could be great, but what I've seen of him on NESN so far has left me uninspired. "Uninspired" would be an improvement on Lyons.

From a color analyst I want the following:

1. Insight. Some of that comes from experience playing the game, but a good dose of it comes from simply being observant. Remy (more so in the past, less so recently) and Eck had a knack for telling you what would likely happen just before it did, because they were paying attention and (Remy more so than Eck) did their homework on the teams & players. THAT'S what I want.

2. Enthusiasm. Doesn't have to be a Pollyanna, but it should be someone who has a love of the game rather than constant disdain.

3. Sense of the moment. They should have a sense of humor but not try to be the life of the party. They should know when to shut up and when to talk. They should know when to hit the spreadsheet and when to watch the game.

4. Fairness. If every umpire is described as being biased against the Red Sox, they have the wrong guy.

I don't think they should go straight there because of his inexperience, but I wonder how the recently-retired Mike Napoli would do. There are probably a bunch of reasons not to consider him, but all that goes away when I point out that Ken Harrelson is available.
   2. Nasty Nate Posted: December 12, 2018 at 12:22 PM (#5797092)
In my opinion, they should send O'Brien back to the radio and start fresh with a whole new duo on NESN. This is not a very helpful opinion, because I have no idea who that duo should be.
   3. SandyRiver Posted: December 12, 2018 at 03:31 PM (#5797182)
Much as I love Big Papi, I have to agree with Jose's assessment. Using VI's numbers:
1. Ortiz has the knowledge to do well here. Whether his overabundance of #2 would ruin any serious attempt to impart such knowledge is a concern.
2. See #1.
3. I see this as a fail, that Ortiz would overwhelm any tries at such a nuanced presence.
4. No idea how this would work out.
   4. The Yankee Clapper Posted: December 12, 2018 at 08:05 PM (#5797274)
One guy who might be an interesting choice is Manny Delcarmen Ramirez.

FTFY. Why go half-way?
   5. villageidiom Posted: December 13, 2018 at 08:24 AM (#5797326)
Yes, YC, what Dave O'Brien needs is a random, ill-advised cutoff.
   6. Chip Posted: December 13, 2018 at 08:58 AM (#5797330)
If we’re looking at guys from the beloved ‘13 team like Napoli, David Ross (ESPN) and Ryan Dempster (MLB Network) are both actually attempting to make a career out of this business.

One guy who I thought was excellent as a studio analyst way back when was Bob Tewksbury, and he’s actually on the current Red Sox payroll. But it’s been 15 years since he did that work, and he seems established in the sports psychology path he took.

Mike Lowell is another guy doing part time MLB Network stuff, but he’s said (as a guest on a NESN broadcast last season, in fact) that he’s not going to do anything like that full time until his kids are out of H.S., and I think that’s a few years away.
   7. Jose is Absurdly Correct but not Helpful Posted: December 13, 2018 at 09:48 AM (#5797356)
Didn't Tewksbury leave the club after the World Series? I seem to have this recollection of him going to work with the Braves but I've been drunk a lot the last few months.
   8. Jose is Absurdly Correct but not Helpful Posted: December 13, 2018 at 10:04 AM (#5797365)
There are rumors that the radio broadcast will be in talk show format. Chad Finn says it is happening, WEEI is pushing back on that report and I suspect it is at least something that has been seriously discussed.
   9. Chip Posted: December 13, 2018 at 02:55 PM (#5797534)
Looks like Tewksbury was actually with the Giants last season.
   10. Jay Seaver Posted: December 13, 2018 at 11:37 PM (#5797697)
Jay clearly is not a fan of Gomes but I actually like him.  When he gets into some of his old man yells at cloud material he’s a bit much but I think he does a pretty good job giving insight as to what a player is thinking at any given time and when he gets into technical stuff like breaking down a swing he is pretty good.

The big issue with Gomes is that while he does occasionally break something down well, he usually seems to come into a 3 hour game with 15 minutes of material, and will as a result repeat himself a lot doing himself no favors because he sounds like he still thinks he's found some sort of great new insight when he says the same thing for the fifth time in as many innings. It's kind of a fascinating example of just what doing a broadcast entails - Gomes is clearly bright and affable when the right material pops up (and he's often thinking ahead well enough to bring an NPB-model baseball or something to demonstrate a point), but he often winds up sounding dumb because that's awful hard to sustain. Maybe with the right partner, it doesn't come up, but O'Brien doesn't seem to be nearly as good at getting the best out of his color guy as Orsillo was.

I like the Delcarmen idea, although I didn't get a chance to watch many of the postgames he worked. A younger/local/bilingual guy seems like he could add a lot to the broadcast that others couldn't.

Of the other people they've had in recent years, DiNardo and Todd Walker were the ones who seemed most at ease. Derek Lowe was entertaining in the couple of games he did, but he also seems like a guy who could get himself in trouble (he had one memorable day on WEEI when he explained that "back spasms" weren't a real thing in most cases, but something people wouldn't question if the real problem was a wimpy-sounding thing that kepts you from pitching like a hangnail) - but, then, that's kind of Eck's appeal, too.

One former Sox I'd be really intrigued by, if he's interested, is Lars Anderson. He's shown himself to be a pretty good writer, which may translate into game-time storytelling, and his spending the last few years playing ball in Japanese independent leagues (he was on Manny's team), Australian, and German club ball means he's got some stories to tell. Of course, he might still be looking to gather those stories at this point.
   11. Morton's Fork Posted: December 20, 2018 at 10:19 AM (#5799450)
The big issue with Gomes is that while he does occasionally break something down well, he usually seems to come into a 3 hour game with 15 minutes of material

Let me say that because I'm on the West Coast I don't get anything but the NESN TV crew, so I'm only talking TV. Given that, I'm sorry, but Gomes is still many measures ahead of O'Brien who thinks that "[current batter] is 4 out of his last 12 against [opposing team] or [opposing pitcher] or [at opponent's ballpark] or [on Sundays]" is a stat that requires multiple repetitions.

If Remy and Eck are not in play, and we can't get Vin Scully, then let's go for something new. I don't know who that might be, but O'Brien's been a disaster, so I'm on board for whomever. (Not Vasgersian, of course, but to be sure [for example, and totally at random] Lauren Shehadi and Heidi Whatney would be an improvement on OB and anybody.)
   12. Jay Seaver Posted: January 08, 2019 at 07:33 PM (#5803550)
Gomes has taken a job as Arizona's "outfield and baserunning coordinator", so there's a bullet dodged. For us, if not for the Diamondbacks, as that does not exactly sound like a great match. Although maybe that's just a spring training position.

Hopefully the Sox do not fill that gap with more Lyons.

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