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   1. Toby Posted: September 05, 2006 at 05:30 PM (#2168211)
To put it another way, we have 24 games left, if we go 19-5 we'd have 93 wins and would probably be in, or in a sudden death playoff game. Onward, I say.
   2. covelli chris p Posted: September 05, 2006 at 05:40 PM (#2168221)
i say just forfeit the rest of the games before anybody else gets hurt.
   3. Xander Posted: September 05, 2006 at 05:53 PM (#2168233)
I fear the worst for Papelbon. I really do.
   4. OlePerfesser Posted: September 05, 2006 at 06:31 PM (#2168267)
Over? Did you say "over"? Nothing is over until we decide it is! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no!

It's official: Toby is now Sunshine, Jr.

On the "no pitching whatsoever" front, apparently Schilling has a strained lat. Which sounds like it could make him either out or ineffective. Sigh.

I'm going to go light a candle each for Lester and Lil Papi.
   5. Toby Posted: September 05, 2006 at 08:27 PM (#2168371)
rage, rage against the dying of the light!
   6. The Original SJ Posted: September 05, 2006 at 08:36 PM (#2168377)
To put it another way, we have 24 games left, if we go 19-5 we'd have 93 wins and would probably be in, or in a sudden death playoff game. Onward, I say.

In 95 the yankees went something like 24-6 in their last 30 games to win the wild card. It can be done.
   7. Dan Szymborski Posted: September 05, 2006 at 08:51 PM (#2168385)
25-7 after that long losing streak. It's not happening, though - the Yankees were 4 1/2 games back then and still only won the wild card by a game and a half. The 8 extra games is huge at this point and they're chasing better teams - the Sox and Twins are both on pace for 94 wins while the leader at the time, the Rangers, was on pace for 85.
   8. PJ Martinez Posted: September 05, 2006 at 09:26 PM (#2168404)
Kottaras is a Sea Dog:

http://tinyurl.com/qb3e5
   9. Darren Posted: September 05, 2006 at 10:30 PM (#2168454)
I'm going to go light a candle each for Lester and Lil Papi.

How about just 2 for Lester instead?
   10. Phil Coorey. Posted: September 06, 2006 at 12:10 AM (#2168545)
Let's wait and see how we play vs. Kansas ####### City first.
   11. IronChef Chris Wok Posted: September 06, 2006 at 01:41 AM (#2168677)
Kason Gabbard must be cheating somehow
   12. Mattbert Posted: September 06, 2006 at 10:40 AM (#2168959)
I fear the worst for Papelbon. I really do.
Same here. See my comment in the Papelbon diagnosis thread.
   13. The Original SJ Posted: September 06, 2006 at 12:24 PM (#2168971)
Sox pick up another game on the Yanks.
   14. Matt Clement of Alexandria Posted: September 06, 2006 at 12:37 PM (#2168973)
Gabba Gabba Hey!
   15. Darren Posted: September 06, 2006 at 03:12 PM (#2169123)
Hey, Toby, why didn't you suggest this earlier.
   16. Kyle S Posted: September 06, 2006 at 10:08 PM (#2169800)
i dunno, kevin... you might become the one pitcher in mlb that dusty pedroia could actually hit. he might even top his weight in SLG off you. :)
   17. base ball chick Posted: September 06, 2006 at 10:14 PM (#2169810)
yall should sign kat osterman
   18. villageidiom Posted: September 07, 2006 at 01:34 PM (#2170414)
I'd love to help but I don't think the Red Sox are much interested a 51 year old righthander with a 70 MPH fastball.

You need to get on the juice.
   19. IronChef Chris Wok Posted: September 07, 2006 at 01:56 PM (#2170437)
I'd love to help but I don't think the Red Sox are much interested a 51 year old righthander with a 70 MPH fastball.

If he was lefthanded I bet you he'd be a hot commodity
   20. 1k5v3L Posted: September 08, 2006 at 11:50 PM (#2171767)
Red Sox released catcher Javy Lopez.
But we never got to see Javier Lopez throw to him. Surely the Red Sox could have set that up just once. According to manager Terry Francona, Lopez was released so that he might have a chance to catch on with another team for the final few weeks. The Red Sox weren't going to have any playing time for him with Jason Varitek back.
   21. 1k5v3L Posted: September 09, 2006 at 01:06 AM (#2171846)
And thus concludes Adam Stern's long and winding career as a member of the Red Sox.

Btw, Kevin, those weren't my words; that was from rotoworld.com. I forgot to say so.

I do agree with your sentiment completely. Even though you may have to define the degree of paper wetness.
   22. IronChef Chris Wok Posted: September 09, 2006 at 04:52 AM (#2171970)
Mike Timlin, get cancer
   23. Darren Posted: September 09, 2006 at 12:55 PM (#2172015)
not cool, C-Wok.
   24. Addicted To Glove Posted: September 09, 2006 at 02:15 PM (#2172036)
I was at the game last night, and though the ending sucked, I went home happier than I would have if they had lost 8-3 like it looked like they were going to. I also learned that the nosebleed seats behind the jumbotron aren't as bad as you might think.. ;)
   25. OlePerfesser Posted: September 09, 2006 at 07:10 PM (#2172191)
Re: Loretta.

Yes, kevin. Plus, they had a superior, cheaper middle IF in Graffanino, who has put up a better EQA and Zone Rating than Loretta this year, for less money and no cost in talent.

To be fair to the FO, however, Loretta had some upside offensively (if you look a some of his recent years' numbers) that Graffy didn't have. And also, while they got a negative delta on Loretta this year, they sure as hell got positive ones (relative to my worried state, anyway) on Lowell and Schilling.
   26. IronChef Chris Wok Posted: September 11, 2006 at 06:41 AM (#2173144)
not cool, C-Wok.

Better somebody deserving and not Lester.
   27. "Andruw for HoF" sure died down Posted: September 11, 2006 at 08:31 AM (#2173167)
How fast people forget Timlin had a 0 ERA in the 2003 post season... Ungrateful bastards.
   28. baudib Posted: September 11, 2006 at 08:57 AM (#2173171)
It's time for the Sox to turn it over to the kids and just play Freddy Sanchez, Hanley Ramirez and Anibal Sanchez.
   29. The Bones McCoy of THT Posted: September 11, 2006 at 09:20 AM (#2173176)
I'd love to help but I don't think the Red Sox are much interested a 51 year old righthander with a 70 MPH fastball.

If he was lefthanded I bet you he'd be a hot commodity


If he he was lefthanded he'd be Jamie Moyer.

Best Regards

John
   30. PJ Martinez Posted: September 11, 2006 at 08:30 PM (#2173654)
So, how long before we get a "Time to Plan for Next Year" thread? It would sure beat whatever's going on in that Ortiz/MVP thread.

I think that this team, with some better breaks, is not far from contending, and that the Sox should spend money (but not prospects) accordingly. Sign the best FA starting pitcher you can, and probably sign Lugo. Probably try to trade Lowell, move Youkilis to third, and go with a platoon at first (or perhaps explore the trade market there, but only if there's a considerable upgrade or surprising bargain available).

If Aramis Ramirez opts out of his contract, go hard after him and dump Lowell.

Do others disagree?
   31. Darren Posted: September 11, 2006 at 11:14 PM (#2173823)
I disagree on ARam. Last I checked he was a terrible fielder. Is that still true?
   32. PJ Martinez Posted: September 12, 2006 at 03:02 AM (#2174186)
This year, according to Dial, A. Ramirez has neither cost nor added a single run with his defense: his line is 0, with 7 NL 3Bmen fielding better and 8 fielding worse.

I don't know anything else about his defense.
   33. Xander Posted: September 12, 2006 at 03:08 AM (#2174204)
No, I thoroughly support the A-Ram plan. I'm not even a big A-Ram fan. But there needs to be some semblance of power in a corner infield spot. On watching him alone, he looks like a below average defender. But I only watch about ~25 Cubs games/year.

A-Ram and Matsuzaka, and you're set.

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