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   1. villageidiom Posted: December 22, 2020 at 07:36 AM (#5995450)
Per Dan:
Both systems see a solid Matt Barnes, three more solid, middle-of-the-road relievers in Ryan Brasier, Josh Taylor, and Darwinzon Hernandez, and a whole lot more question marks.

I would have felt a lot better about that assessment of those players if it were early 2019 and not late 2020. I guess I see nothing but question marks back there.
   2. Jose Is An Absurd Balladeer Posted: December 22, 2020 at 08:08 AM (#5995454)
Yeah, it's not a great looking bullpen. I'm hopeful about Hernandez and the Sox seem to just love Taylor. Barnes is better than he was last year. Brasier, meh. Bullpens are what they are though. As badly wrong as they can go they are also pretty easy to build up. I can see a scenario where Hernandez and Barnes combine to be dominant on the back end. If Taylor, Brasier and maybe Brice or Valdez can be useful, that is good. I also think it's pretty likely the Sox are going to add a reliever if not two from what looks like a fairly rich free agent market.
   3. villageidiom Posted: December 22, 2020 at 09:20 AM (#5995460)
Should I be happy that Chris Sale's comp is John Smiley? Smiley had 0 WAR and a career-ending injury in his age-32 season.
   4. Nasty Nate Posted: December 22, 2020 at 03:37 PM (#5995560)
The Sox used 27 pitchers in 2020 (not including Lin, Plawecki, and Peraza). How many of that crew will never again pitch an inning in the major leagues?
   5. Jose Is An Absurd Balladeer Posted: December 23, 2020 at 12:55 PM (#5995700)
The bold are my guesses.

Name Age
Martin Perez* 29
Nathan Eovaldi 30
Chris Mazza 30
Zack Godley 30
Matt Barnes 30
Ryan Weber 29
Phillips Valdez 28
Ryan Brasier 32
Austin Brice 28
Colten Brewer 27
Jeffrey Springs* 27
Tanner Houck 24
Josh Osich* 31
Dylan Covey 28
Mike Kickham* 31
Robert Stock 30
Marcus Walden 31
Kyle Hart* 27
Nick Pivetta 27
Heath Hembree 31
Matt Hall* 26
Darwinzon Hernandez* 23
Andrew Triggs 31
Josh Taylor* 27
Brandon Workman 31
Robinson Leyer 27
Domingo Tapia 28

   6. villageidiom Posted: December 23, 2020 at 03:05 PM (#5995724)
Matt Andriese is now a member of the Red Sox. ZiPS had him with the Angels around the same projected WAR as any one of Barnes/Brasier/Mazza/Godley.
   7. Nasty Nate Posted: December 24, 2020 at 09:01 AM (#5995811)
 5. Jose Needs an Absurd Ukulele Concert Posted: December 23, 2020 at 12:55 PM (#5995700)
The bold are my guesses.
You hereby set the over/under at 6! I bet over.

I also found it interesting that there were no old pitchers on the team. Brasier was the oldest!
   8. villageidiom Posted: December 24, 2020 at 10:29 AM (#5995826)
Brasier is the 10th-most tenured player on the Red Sox 40-man roster, per soxprospects.com, once you remove JBJ.

2006/08 Pedroia
2012/11 Vazquez
2013/08 Bogaerts
2014/09 Barnes
2014/11 Rodriguez
2016/08 Benintendi
2016/12 Sale
2017/07 Devers
2018/02 Martinez
2018/03 Walden
2018/07 Brasier

Nathan Eovaldi is 11th. He's the only player not listed above who was from the 2018 Championship roster and still remains on the roster.
   9. Nasty Nate Posted: December 24, 2020 at 10:36 AM (#5995828)
Out of curiosity, what is the second number (e.g. 08 for Pedroia)?
   10. Jose Is An Absurd Balladeer Posted: December 24, 2020 at 10:56 AM (#5995832)
I’m guessing that’s the month they were added to the 40 man or MLB roster. Pedroia and Benny were called up in August, JDM was signed in February, Sale was acquired in December, Devers was a July call up.
   11. Nasty Nate Posted: December 24, 2020 at 11:08 AM (#5995837)
I’m guessing that’s the month they were added to the 40 man or MLB roster. Pedroia and Benny were called up in August, JDM was signed in February, Sale was acquired in December, Devers was a July call up.
Ah, thanks. I had ruled out month of acquisition and month of debut.
   12. Jose Is An Absurd Balladeer Posted: December 24, 2020 at 11:50 AM (#5995842)
To be clear I don’t know that for a fact. Just a moderately educated guess.
   13. villageidiom Posted: December 24, 2020 at 02:54 PM (#5995862)
It's the correct guess. Now I'll entertain incorrect guesses.
   14. villageidiom Posted: January 13, 2021 at 10:18 AM (#5999455)
OUTFIELD: The big question in the outfield is Andrew Benintendi. It’s pretty clear that ZiPS isn’t too bothered by 14 bad games during a pandemic and has Benny going back to his 2019 form for better or for worse. For the Sox to move back into contention Benintendi at least splitting the difference between 2018 and 2019 would be a big boost.
Seeing reports that a trade of Benintendi is... I don't know about "imminent", but reportedly multiple teams are interested and negotiating with Boston.

Jose's comment, spun a different way - maybe even different than he'd been intending - is that returning to 2019 form isn't good enough. They need something closer to 2018. The acquisition of Renfroe means that they have someone who is projected to perform around what one should realistically expect from Benintendi, while the latter's record pre-2019 suggests substantial upside that might be more attractive in trade. I hope that Boston keeps Benintendi AND he returns to 2018 form, but (a) I don't think both will happen, and (b) this roster needs more than hope.

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